You picked some nice drivers, went through the trouble of making some nice looking cabinets only to combine it with a MiniDSP solution for filtering and amplification? I'm sorry, that doesn't add up, would you care to explain, as MiniDSP is fine for car audio, or your typical boombox, but far from suitable for HiFi.
Sassan, to clarify, I am using the 800 watt x 2 plate amp from minidsp.
I am using Minidsp for bass only....quality passive tuned specifically for or the mid and tweeter, then all tuned with the active bass. REW can be added later.
My experience over many years leads me to use active bass solutions.
Thanks for your comments.
Regards.
Andrew.
I am using Minidsp for bass only....quality passive tuned specifically for or the mid and tweeter, then all tuned with the active bass. REW can be added later.
My experience over many years leads me to use active bass solutions.
Thanks for your comments.
Regards.
Andrew.
Atisley,
You will get a cracking system.
My main system in the "playroom" uses:
- P.Audio BM18LF (or other various pro audio 18 inch drivers as they seem to roll through my life)
- JBL 2123J 10 inch bassmid, a cracking driver from, in this case 220Hz upwards. No doubt an oldie, but in terms of performance, distortion and efficiency this is the best bassmid I have used.
- TPL150H from about 1700Hz upwards. An awesomely well behaved driver - almost boringly so!
Using a DSP crossover to sort out time alignment and some minor tweaks in - well largely the room. Crossover is mine, and therefore perfect
Distortion across the band is very low, tenths of a % at all sensible frequencies, and even insensible SPL's.
The available dynamic range is fantastic - even scary.
In terms of fundamental capability, distortion and available dynamic range this - and from what I see the system you are building - will leave very little to be desired. The ultimate question comes down to one of taste and execution.
You seem to be executing this with a mountain of style... look forward to seeing how this finishes!
PS: I couldn't make myself go open baffle. The engineer in me said ported on the bass - but mainly so very high SPL at low frequencies don't challenge Xmax.
You will get a cracking system.
My main system in the "playroom" uses:
- P.Audio BM18LF (or other various pro audio 18 inch drivers as they seem to roll through my life)
- JBL 2123J 10 inch bassmid, a cracking driver from, in this case 220Hz upwards. No doubt an oldie, but in terms of performance, distortion and efficiency this is the best bassmid I have used.
- TPL150H from about 1700Hz upwards. An awesomely well behaved driver - almost boringly so!
Using a DSP crossover to sort out time alignment and some minor tweaks in - well largely the room. Crossover is mine, and therefore perfect
Distortion across the band is very low, tenths of a % at all sensible frequencies, and even insensible SPL's.
The available dynamic range is fantastic - even scary.
In terms of fundamental capability, distortion and available dynamic range this - and from what I see the system you are building - will leave very little to be desired. The ultimate question comes down to one of taste and execution.
You seem to be executing this with a mountain of style... look forward to seeing how this finishes!
PS: I couldn't make myself go open baffle. The engineer in me said ported on the bass - but mainly so very high SPL at low frequencies don't challenge Xmax.
What kind of cables are you using? Enameled copper wire used for electric motors, transformers, etc? Gauge?
I would look towards the Hypex DLCP solution combined with a set of NCore amplifiers for filtering the entire loudspeaker.
https://www.hypexshop.com/DetailServlet?detailID=5485
Atisley
great project. I love the Magico designs. the curved front pannels look beautyful. The looking and finish is key for their success. The looks of the TPl150 wave guide sucks. Imagine a wave guide made with a cnc router, and a 12p80nd in a separate modul with a magico-alike front pannel with the gorgeous curving, and cnc cabinet like the magico mini, and sub moduls. That would be world class performance, combined with world class design. Offer it at a reasonable price, and enough pr and show going, and commercial success will be garanteed. If i'd live in the u.s. australia, or europe, i would maybe try such a venture.
great project. I love the Magico designs. the curved front pannels look beautyful. The looking and finish is key for their success. The looks of the TPl150 wave guide sucks. Imagine a wave guide made with a cnc router, and a 12p80nd in a separate modul with a magico-alike front pannel with the gorgeous curving, and cnc cabinet like the magico mini, and sub moduls. That would be world class performance, combined with world class design. Offer it at a reasonable price, and enough pr and show going, and commercial success will be garanteed. If i'd live in the u.s. australia, or europe, i would maybe try such a venture.
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Thanks Angelo, I've long admired your work. I've been building speakers for 15 years, and watch your projects with interest. If visiting Oz, happy to host you.
We debated custom Birch horn for tweeter, but for now, I'll build curved housing like the mid bass.
Today I spent 5 hours with putty and sanding.
We debated custom Birch horn for tweeter, but for now, I'll build curved housing like the mid bass.
Today I spent 5 hours with putty and sanding.
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Thank you for your kind remarks.
Shortly, I'll be able to provide some feedback on the individual components. I have already tested the Beyma tweeter/horn.
In regards to MiniDSP, I have used the 2x4 and 4x10 products. Also, my technical support is provided by the principal of Redefy Audio, Henry, who is very experienced in MiniDSP applications. Henry will be setting up the bass module plus building the passive components for the mid and tweeter.
I figured 800 watts of D-class amplification with a pro driver of 96dB housed in an over enginnered cab should cover off most domestic listening requirements (and some). I have used Faital Pro 18's before in my large 4-way Cessaro clone project. See pic.
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