So I just checked the capacitors, it raised some questions
2x2uf are suppose to be 160v but they provided 450v
2x220uf are 450v instead of 160v
2x10uf replaced by 22uf
1x47uf replaced by 82uf
Are they caps I need to get at the right value or can I go with what is provided?
Thanks
2x2uf are suppose to be 160v but they provided 450v
2x220uf are 450v instead of 160v
2x10uf replaced by 22uf
1x47uf replaced by 82uf
Are they caps I need to get at the right value or can I go with what is provided?
Thanks
newbie here .... can you help me?
I received 2 Iso Tango FC-20S as a gift from my son.
I would like to use them with this pcb.
So what layout should I follow and what values to use with the black pcb?
The power transformer 220V
320 0 320 0.3 A
2x6.3 V 5 A
2x5 V 4 A
Thank you
I received 2 Iso Tango FC-20S as a gift from my son.
I would like to use them with this pcb.
So what layout should I follow and what values to use with the black pcb?
The power transformer 220V
320 0 320 0.3 A
2x6.3 V 5 A
2x5 V 4 A
Thank you
450V caps can be used in place of lower voltage caps, they are just physically larger in most instances. The other values, not sure about.
Thanks it's what I thought for the voltage.
For the other values I think I will just get other caps
newbie here .... can you help me?
I received 2 Iso Tango FC-20S as a gift from my son.
I would like to use them with this pcb.
So what layout should I follow and what values to use with the black pcb?
The power transformer 220V
320 0 320 0.3 A
2x6.3 V 5 A
2x5 V 4 A
Thank you
You are missing the 5v for the rectifier.
The 6.3 must be made with a 3.15-0-3.15
Thanks nickytheshaft
I was thinking of using 6.3v to 5v drop resistor. However can I use the values indicated in the layout of post 65 with any corrections indicated in the following posts? Since many components do not correspond to those printed on the pcb. Just to have a starting point and not see magic smoke right away.
I was thinking of using 6.3v to 5v drop resistor. However can I use the values indicated in the layout of post 65 with any corrections indicated in the following posts? Since many components do not correspond to those printed on the pcb. Just to have a starting point and not see magic smoke right away.
The power transformer 220V
320 0 320 0.3 A
With such low AC voltage (even at 230V it's only 334V) the cathode bias of 300B not the optimal solution.
The PSU DC output about 350V, and -with cathode biased 300B- the estimated power (A1) is only 3.2W (70mA anode current, Ug 100Vpp on 700R cathode resistor, the OPT has 3k5:8 connection).
Over it the distortion growing rapidly.
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The OPT datasheet recommend 80ma anode current, so the estimated current of HT PSU (one channel) about 88-90mA (power tube current + driver tubes current), the aggregated current is about 180mA.
You may choose some options (depending of OPT primary connection, cathode biased 300B):
- low/er/ impedance (2k or 3k5) with higher distortion but higher maximum power;
- high impedance (apx. 5k) with low distortion, but lower power.
The higher impedance represents higher DCR (the 5k total DCR is 184R), so with higher impedance the anode voltage will be a little lower (few ten Ohm * 80ma= about 2...5V).
If you choose this version, must be the HT B+ higher for -estimated- 350..400V Vak.
The B+ voltage:
Voltage on cathode resistor + estimated Vak of 300B + voltage on OPT (DCR*estimated current).
Sample: 68V + 350V + 15V = 433V (at 80mA anode current).
If you want 433V (at 180mA load) B+, the power transformer secondary must be -about- 390..420V (dependig of rectifier tube, PSU desing etc...etc).
p.s.
If you have MS-3221 power transformer from ISO, it's designed for fixed bias amplifiers (from the 70V AC point generating negative bias voltage of 300B grid).
You may choose some options (depending of OPT primary connection, cathode biased 300B):
- low/er/ impedance (2k or 3k5) with higher distortion but higher maximum power;
- high impedance (apx. 5k) with low distortion, but lower power.
The higher impedance represents higher DCR (the 5k total DCR is 184R), so with higher impedance the anode voltage will be a little lower (few ten Ohm * 80ma= about 2...5V).
If you choose this version, must be the HT B+ higher for -estimated- 350..400V Vak.
The B+ voltage:
Voltage on cathode resistor + estimated Vak of 300B + voltage on OPT (DCR*estimated current).
Sample: 68V + 350V + 15V = 433V (at 80mA anode current).
If you want 433V (at 180mA load) B+, the power transformer secondary must be -about- 390..420V (dependig of rectifier tube, PSU desing etc...etc).
p.s.
If you have MS-3221 power transformer from ISO, it's designed for fixed bias amplifiers (from the 70V AC point generating negative bias voltage of 300B grid).
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You may choose some options (depending of OPT primary connection, cathode biased 300B):
- low/er/ impedance (2k or 3k5) with higher distortion but higher maximum power;
- high impedance (apx. 5k) with low distortion, but lower power.
Some of this OT choice should also be based on the actual impedance of the speakers you are going to drive. Given that the impedance seen by the tube is a reflection of the speaker impedance, and rarely does a speaker present a constant impedance load across all frequencies, it's a good idea to try to look up the measured impedance curve of the speakers you plan to use, and setup the OT accordingly.
I have the self-built Troels Poor Man Strad.
I'll take measurements. Maybe not really suitable but I listen at a fairly low volume.
Thanks stephe
If you don't need the power, lean towards the higher OT inductance.
Board Build:
A couple component values were changed due to different parts being provided vs what was on the silkscreen:
300B Grid resistor which changed from 220K to 205K
300B Cathode Resistor bypass cap changed from 470uF to 220uF
Filter cap for the first gain stage changed from 10uF to 22uF
I was short one 22uF 450V cap and had to use one I had on hand that was a 22uF 400V Nichikon KMX
I also had one Rubycon SV570 82uF BN A(2) capacitor and an LED left over.
Changes I made:
I did not place the 22pf cap on the input
I changed the input grid resistor from 100K to 1 Meg, and added a 100K pot on the input
I changed the 300B cathode resistors from 2 X 2K in parallel to 2 X 2.4K in parallel
Changes are in blue on the attached schematic.
6A3sUMMER,
I was lazy on the 300B and did not calculate the stage gain. I should have. It puts the overall amplifier down to roughly 2.5 vs previously shown 3.07, even worse from a drive standpoijnt.
Hello,can you tell me why you did not place the 22pf?
My kit came with 33pf instead.
Thanks
You can use resistor to drop 1v, probably around 0.33r 10w
I have another question.
Thé schematic on thé seller shop shows 6.3v so I had m'y transformer customised with 6.3-0 and 3.15-0-3.15.
The pcb is marked 6v....
Can I use m'y 6.3-0 or 3.15-0-3.15 or is thé extra 0.3v a problem ?
Thé whole transformer is 250w
Thanks
You can use resistor to drop 1v, probably around 0.33r 10w
Ok thanks, I will give it a go
I am using 3 x 1r3w parallel (0.333r) to drop from 7v to 6.38v @ 3A
Ok thanks, I will give it a go
nickytheshaft, The 22pf (or 33pf in your case) combines with he 1K input resistor to form a low-pass filter at 72MHz (or in your case 48MHz). It is not needed unless you have susceptibility to local RF sources (radio stations?).
Ok thanks for the explanation
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