I use clip mounted output devices, and I agree. It's hard to mount, and You need to take it into consideration in the planning phase. I use some tools to remove the force from the PCB.
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This is special, as it was planned especially for SK514, and the pcb I use. I put picture about the pcb above.
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Not very small power amplifier, as it gives about 150W/8ohms, and 250W/4ohms 🙂 As I use no insulators for the output devices I can enable the heatsink temperature up to 100C.
Sajti
SA2014/SA2015/SA2016 power supply ...
Final 2 pin diode variant (MBR40250G) variant ...
IMHO: ready for fab.
Note: Schematics and Gerbers are free to use only for non commercial DIY projects.
WARNING: the circuit is using and providing very high AC and DC voltages and is therefore very dangerous and can be lethal. I am not responsible for any costs, damage and/or injury using these schematics. Do not use this schematics if you do not have the necessary experience and knowledge.
BR, Toni
Final 2 pin diode variant (MBR40250G) variant ...
IMHO: ready for fab.
Note: Schematics and Gerbers are free to use only for non commercial DIY projects.
WARNING: the circuit is using and providing very high AC and DC voltages and is therefore very dangerous and can be lethal. I am not responsible for any costs, damage and/or injury using these schematics. Do not use this schematics if you do not have the necessary experience and knowledge.
BR, Toni
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SA2014/SA2015/SA2016 power supply ...
Final 3 pin diode variant (MBR40250TG) variant ...
IMHO: ready for fab.
Note: Schematics and Gerbers are free to use only for non commercial DIY projects.
WARNING: the circuit is using and providing very high AC and DC voltages and is therefore very dangerous and can be lethal. I am not responsible for any costs, damage and/or injury using these schematics. Do not use this schematics if you do not have the necessary experience and knowledge.
BR, Toni
Final 3 pin diode variant (MBR40250TG) variant ...
IMHO: ready for fab.
Note: Schematics and Gerbers are free to use only for non commercial DIY projects.
WARNING: the circuit is using and providing very high AC and DC voltages and is therefore very dangerous and can be lethal. I am not responsible for any costs, damage and/or injury using these schematics. Do not use this schematics if you do not have the necessary experience and knowledge.
BR, Toni
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Not really. The case to sink thermal resistance is much less, than with insulator. So the junction temperature is not higher, comparing to the insulated solution, with 80 degree heatsink.
Sajti
During design I go for max. 55 - 60 degree heatsink temperature - even for summer - so you can touch it with your fingers ...
Using modern keratherm pads you do not have a big thermal loss.
IMHO: the power derating is galactical if you go for 100degree Tc
BR, Toni
I do not believe you.
20C degrees difference by omitting the insulator ! What were you proposing to use, a sheet of plywood?
What is the power de-rating factor for Tc when heatsink is @ 80°C?
The maximum dissipation of each device is about 25W with 4 ohms load. The junction to case thermal resistance is 0.78K/W, and case to sink is 0.1K/W. This is totally 0.9K/W. This means 122.5C maximum junction temperature. The 2SC6145A is rated to 30W at Tj=125C.
In normal music apllication the fan is rarely speed up to the maximum, which means 70C heatsink temperature.
Sajti
OK - you design your cooling with respect to the audio crest factor.😎
I try to design it - even if many think this is nonsense - for continuous output power. 😎 too - isn't it?
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I try to design it - even if many think this is nonsense - for continuous output power. 😎 too - isn't it?
BR, Toni
Toni and I found that if you twist Vcc (and Vee) supplies to the amp OPS with the ground wire connecting the OPS to the PSU dirty ground you will have a very noisy amp. Speaker return to PSU dirty ground takes an entirely different path (wire). The wire from the OPS "PWR_GND" is returning bypass cap pulses back to the dirty ground at the PSU.
The principal currents flow from the PSU to the speaker load via the OPS, speaker-out wire and back from the speaker terminals directly to the PSU. Within the PSU there is currently flowing to ground via the caps (main filter, bypass and Zobel).
Why don't you? It will take but a few seconds.
Toni, out of interest, what thermal settings do you use on these - clearance and thermal "spoke" width?
So what is in store for SA2017? Can I be cheeky and suggest:
😛 😉 😀 😱
- 100W@8R/200W@4R (continuous if possible)
- IPS with direct acceptance of balanced input (4 quadrant input stage? 😛) making my balanced to single-ended input boards redundant
- max dimensions 100mm x 200mm so can (just) fit vertically in 5U case. IPS/VAS can stack over OPS if need be (board to board connector rather than wiring?)
- wrapped in a nice bow
😛 😉 😀 😱
RFC: SA2017
BR, Toni😉
- technical SA2016 bridged, balanced
- 300W@8R, 600W@4R
- dimensions ?😎
- technical SA2014 bridged, balanced
- 900W@8R, 1800W@4R
- dimensions ?
BR, Toni😉
SA2014 power supply reloaded ...
Final 2 pin diode variant (MBR40250G) variant ...
IMHO: ready for fab.
Note: Schematics and Gerbers are free to use only for non commercial DIY projects.
WARNING: the circuit is using and providing very high AC and DC voltages and is therefore very dangerous and can be lethal. I am not responsible for any costs, damage and/or injury using these schematics. Do not use this schematics if you do not have the necessary experience and knowledge.
BR, Toni
Final 2 pin diode variant (MBR40250G) variant ...
IMHO: ready for fab.
Note: Schematics and Gerbers are free to use only for non commercial DIY projects.
WARNING: the circuit is using and providing very high AC and DC voltages and is therefore very dangerous and can be lethal. I am not responsible for any costs, damage and/or injury using these schematics. Do not use this schematics if you do not have the necessary experience and knowledge.
BR, Toni
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