This Eminence would be a good choice...
https://usspeaker.com/Eminence Kappa Pro 10LF 10 inch high power speaker-1.htm
Maybe this Beyma for less cost:
https://usspeaker.com/beyma 10BR60v2-1.htm
https://usspeaker.com/Eminence Kappa Pro 10LF 10 inch high power speaker-1.htm
Maybe this Beyma for less cost:
https://usspeaker.com/beyma 10BR60v2-1.htm
We kind of abandoned Dayton drivers as they are not nearly as inexpensive in Europe as they are in the US. An example is the Dayton DSA315-8 and the Scan-speak Discovery 26W. In the US the prices are $110 and $210 but in Europe they are something like €160 and €170.
I have thought about this a few times, partly because there seem to be a LOT more options if we considered a 10" driver. But, me personally, a 10" 3-way is not interesting as they are pretty common. Not necessarily the Monkey Coffin format (sorry!!) but if I wanted an inexpensive 10" 3-way I'd just build the Tarkus. [Not literally true, I wouldn't build anything because I am listening to a 10" standmount 3-way right now.]
I am partial to 5" midranges, but for no scientific reason.
One thing I have considered - at least when thinking about what I would build for myself - is using a 3D printed waveguide. Because (1) this will greatly help with directivity matching and (2) AugerPro has done such amazing work to have some many readily available. Anyone else have a strong preference for or against using 3D printed waveguides in the design?
I simmed the MX12 I think, with a pretty low x-over point. I didn't see any real problem, but there have been comments on bass quality using "sub-woofer" drivers.
One vote against a printed wave-guide. It creates a potential availability issue for some other parts of the world.
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Has anyone, anyone at all, even suggested that they might consider building this. I've not seen one enthusiastic reply in either thread saying so. Are we wasting our time?
I might build one pair.
Might have a couple spare SBA 12"s. Not the SB34NRX75-6 but the pricier SB34SWNRX-S75-6. Depending on how the "Possible monitor/monkey box/coffin group project" turns out. 😉
Already have 4 SLS 10s that will be turned into 1-box Tarkus. Or variant of whatever evolves here in this thread.
Might have a couple spare SBA 12"s. Not the SB34NRX75-6 but the pricier SB34SWNRX-S75-6. Depending on how the "Possible monitor/monkey box/coffin group project" turns out. 😉
Already have 4 SLS 10s that will be turned into 1-box Tarkus. Or variant of whatever evolves here in this thread.
I am interested in this build, it might not happen right a way as I am working a build for my brother and a 2-way project but the Econo-Monkey does interest me. 10" or 12" versions, I am undecided. But I lean towards a higher sensitivity design if possible over say 85dB sensitivity.
3D printing a waveguide is something like a lot of others here is something I am interested in, but not ready to go there yet. I just surfed the PE page, 14% off sale calls to me but I can wait until the next sale to pull the trigger for this build.
3D printing a waveguide is something like a lot of others here is something I am interested in, but not ready to go there yet. I just surfed the PE page, 14% off sale calls to me but I can wait until the next sale to pull the trigger for this build.
Maybe I'm in a bit of an engineering bubble, but I feel like I know a dozen people with printers and we even have printers in libraries. But even if not locally available, is there a significant issue ordering prints online? A well done FDM print should be cheap and good enough
You can get 3D prints pretty cheap from China. If you are in the US, I'd probably print some if people need them. Maybe they'd be hard to print in rural Rwanda, but I still bet they wouldn't be too hard to get.
The reason I am in favor, is that a weakness of the traditional wide-baffle classic three way is poor directivity compared to what we can achieve these days.
The reason I am in favor, is that a weakness of the traditional wide-baffle classic three way is poor directivity compared to what we can achieve these days.
Not everyone wants a waveguide, simple as that, and most older monkey boxes did not have them. They had horns sometimes, but typically not waveguides.
I also think that, the monkey coffin is a simple box, where all drivers are on a flat panel. That is the concept of it, not complicating things with waveguies or so.
It's not that waveguides not have their function, but it's a different speaker then i think, not a classic monkey coffin speaker.
It's not that waveguides not have their function, but it's a different speaker then i think, not a classic monkey coffin speaker.
Not yelling, I don't know why the picture is huge. I'm OK either way if anyone can get the wave-guide. How costly are they? How much work to cut the box for one? The look of the speaker may be important. If we find more than three people who want to build it, we can maybe ask. This tweeter is not pretty, but I have a pair. Limited use so far. I believe Wolf_teeth has heard these before, and could comment on performance. I've mostly just used one in a center channel, but I plan to build some mains with them.
I would cross them at 3k for this project, but currently they are crossed at 2k in my center channel.
I would cross them at 3k for this project, but currently they are crossed at 2k in my center channel.
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I think a wave-guide tweeter is a viable option if it comes that way from the manufacturer. It may even be necessary if you are trying to make a a high efficiency three way.
I wouldn't mind a waveguide tweeter either. SB26STWGC, Morel CAT328 or the H26TG are good options for me. If I had to I would do a 3D printed WG. The 3D printed WG I purchased for a GRS PT6822 was not aesthetically to my liking (rough). Just my preference, not a game stopper.
I like Morels! Never tried that one, but I think it would be awesome.
The H26 measures really well, and is pretty sensitive.
The H26 measures really well, and is pretty sensitive.
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I might add, I have the Dayton ND25FW waveguide tweeter for a two way project. I don't think it is up to monkey box standards as distortion goes up near 100dB. Nice for the price though ($13).
Any leanings toward a mid range driver for this?
Any leanings toward a mid range driver for this?
I checked with customer service. If you order the Peerless 12", it will be May before it comes in. You can cancel the order in May if you decide to.