Hence why the DPA-300B and RTP3D preamp is the only thing I would need. I also have the option of trying the PP-2C which is Allan's KT88/6550 version of the DPA platform. The PP-2C never made it into production since the DPA-300B sounded better according to him. Its basically Triode vs Pentode.
For now, SS together with a magnetic preamplifier, possibly Iron Pumpkin.
For now, SS together with a magnetic preamplifier, possibly Iron Pumpkin.
Not to sidetrack the thread too much, but sometimes its good to backtrack to get a better perspective and since there is a clear lineage of the amps being released and worked on, I went over your threads and ordered them based on the date their thread was generated and I came up with this list.
- PAPA'S KOAN ....... was Papa's Surprise .............................................................was released 2010-10-02
- Babysitter for Papa's Koan .................................................................................... was released 2011-04-07
- Official M2 schematic ............................................................................................. was released 2015-10-25
- Most Greedy Greedy Greedy Boy (of them all) ............................................ was released 2017-11-14
- Babelfish M25, AKA M2 on steroids, AKA M2-XA25 bstrd ...................... was released 2018-07-14
- SissySIT ......................................................................................................................... was released 2018-08-24
- LuDEF ............................................................................................................................ was released 2021-03-26
- SissySIT R.3 ................................................................................................................. was released 2021-04-21
- Babelfish M25 R.2/SET amp ................................................................................. was released 2021-04-27
- Babelfish XA252 ........................................................................................................ was released 2021-06-11
- Scryer ..... or how F8 met Mighty SissySIT ...................................................... was released 2022-07-22
- Steeplejack ..... or how F8 met Mighty Babelfish M25 (& Schade) ....... was released 2022-09-05
your last sentence - search for Boo and Pooh
this is maybe helpful, courtesy to CodyT: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/list-of-zm-projects.375782/
this is maybe helpful, courtesy to CodyT: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/list-of-zm-projects.375782/
Great to hear ... sorry, that was a terrible pun !
Nice build - but you did hurt my brain swapping yellow/green as V(+/- ) between channels 🤔
Nice build - but you did hurt my brain swapping yellow/green as V(+/- ) between channels 🤔
i have thr LP, CD and HiRez Tidal of that. Simply terrific playing.Found this at a shop the other day... Most of the time I'm not in the way...
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"...they used to heed the words he said, but that was yesterday"
simply awesome...
How about Cecilio and Kapono? 1974. Sunflower, Loving in your eyes...
Simply awesome music to be a teenager...
Soon, I need to settle with an amp and speakers and go back to music.. my stereos, thank to you nuts, are beyond awesome now... I"m listening now a lot and simply loving it...
Hawai'ian country... All is fair in love.. stated with a Marantz 2220B... never thought it could sound so good....
And then Loogins and Messina, Live on Stage... the LP Nelson had in that picture with his Plasmatronics... I got the LP, CD and HiRez download...
Angry Eyes.. on my IEM right now .. on a trip right now... trip within a trip...
Danny's Song...
Dark Star coming...
Damn.. I love good music My portable audio blows 99% of everything..
I think ZM needs a reeducation.. .Bridged 252s WTH? Bruddah... when do we settle this?
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^ Garcia and Grisman together always make me smile. It took me a while to find a decent used copy of that on vinyl. I just happened across it on a trip. I got that that, a nice copy of Joni Mitchell's Blue, and a few other fun ones including a very reasonably-priced copy of PPL's Bustin' Out.
I think I'm in the mood for some breakfast Pizza Tapes. 🙂 I'll have to get the tissues ready for Amazing Grace.
When I lived in Asia and was travelling most every week, I went down the rabbit hole of portables. There is some great stuff out there. I don't travel nearly as much any more, so I haven't looked into portables for about 5 years. From a DIY perspective, if you haven't seen it/tried it, XRK's pocket Class A amp is pretty fantastic. I got some funny stares plugging my IEMs into an Altoids box, and a few airport security people were curious...
I built a bunch of them for gifts, and mine is never far away. He's got a new design, the Hakuin, with a LiPo battery and charging / monitoring circuit. I built a few test sets of that. I hope it will make it further along in the design cycle. It's wonderful!
One of mine... this one has been around ...
![IMG_3563[18027].jpg IMG_3563[18027].jpg](https://www.diyaudio.com/community/data/attachments/1098/1098571-6c3c3ca042bd8025d66c4518a2dfab01.jpg?hash=bDw8oEK9gC)
A set I did a few years ago for holiday gifts.

Hakuin test boards

Oh... I guess I should mention that I really, really need to build one or more of the 252 variants to keep this on topic.
wdavis009 is showing me the way with the 4U/500 chassis for this and the Alephs ... 🙂
I think I'm in the mood for some breakfast Pizza Tapes. 🙂 I'll have to get the tissues ready for Amazing Grace.
When I lived in Asia and was travelling most every week, I went down the rabbit hole of portables. There is some great stuff out there. I don't travel nearly as much any more, so I haven't looked into portables for about 5 years. From a DIY perspective, if you haven't seen it/tried it, XRK's pocket Class A amp is pretty fantastic. I got some funny stares plugging my IEMs into an Altoids box, and a few airport security people were curious...
I built a bunch of them for gifts, and mine is never far away. He's got a new design, the Hakuin, with a LiPo battery and charging / monitoring circuit. I built a few test sets of that. I hope it will make it further along in the design cycle. It's wonderful!
One of mine... this one has been around ...
![IMG_3563[18027].jpg IMG_3563[18027].jpg](https://www.diyaudio.com/community/data/attachments/1098/1098571-6c3c3ca042bd8025d66c4518a2dfab01.jpg?hash=bDw8oEK9gC)
A set I did a few years ago for holiday gifts.

Hakuin test boards

Oh... I guess I should mention that I really, really need to build one or more of the 252 variants to keep this on topic.

So, how is life with the XA252... I'm a junky and must get my daily review ... 😆She is alive again and has been playing for about 5 hours. 😀
So, how is life with the XA252... I'm a junky and must get my daily review ... 😆
This is an amazing amp. Currently running my Benchmark DAC directly into the amp via XLR interconnects. The transparency of this amp is breathtaking. Easily the most neutral, transparent amp I have tried, including all the commercial amps I have own/tried. Will put the preamp into the chain today and listen to some vinyl.
Great to hear ... sorry, that was a terrible pun !
Nice build - but you did hurt my brain swapping yellow/green as V(+/- ) between channels 🤔
Yeah, I recycled wire from a previous build as I ran out of black/red wire and wanted to get this build done as quickly as possible. 🙂
They only come once in a while, don't they. Now I can put in even more time on the planing 🙂 .. What r u using as the pre ?
Searching schematic with old eyes I do no locate R50. Is this another position left blank in mosfet version? checking the other two schematics now to see if only used in those versions.post #624 - you have separate schmtcs for all 3 options - full mos, SET, SIT
R29,30,39,40 are smd resistors, already on pcb, part of current mirror biasing network
R53 is part of Schade circuit, populated only if you're building Schade/SET option; it is "just" ommited from schematic for full mos option, same as several other parts
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Found it on the SET schematic, looks like not used in mosfet version, leave blank or jumper, assuming leave blank. I'm stopping here and creating mini BOM for resistors. My old eyes are too tired to comb schematics!
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What did you do with all the Altoids? LOL.^ Garcia and Grisman together always make me smile. It took me a while to find a decent used copy of that on vinyl. I just happened across it on a trip. I got that that, a nice copy of Joni Mitchell's Blue, and a few other fun ones including a very reasonably-priced copy of PPL's Bustin' Out.
I think I'm in the mood for some breakfast Pizza Tapes. 🙂 I'll have to get the tissues ready for Amazing Grace.
When I lived in Asia and was travelling most every week, I went down the rabbit hole of portables. There is some great stuff out there. I don't travel nearly as much any more, so I haven't looked into portables for about 5 years. From a DIY perspective, if you haven't seen it/tried it, XRK's pocket Class A amp is pretty fantastic. I got some funny stares plugging my IEMs into an Altoids box, and a few airport security people were curious...
I built a bunch of them for gifts, and mine is never far away. He's got a new design, the Hakuin, with a LiPo battery and charging / monitoring circuit. I built a few test sets of that. I hope it will make it further along in the design cycle. It's wonderful!
One of mine... this one has been around ...
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A set I did a few years ago for holiday gifts.
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Hakuin test boards
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Oh... I guess I should mention that I really, really need to build one or more of the 252 variants to keep this on topic.wdavis009 is showing me the way with the 4U/500 chassis for this and the Alephs ... 🙂
Russellc
They only come once in a while, don't they. Now I can put in even more time on the planing 🙂 .. What r u using as the pre ?
Currently the front-end of a Mark Levinson 5805 or pass through the Benchmark DAC3.
Searching schematic with old eyes I do no locate R50. Is this another position left blank in mosfet version? checking the other two schematics now to see if only used in those versions.
it can't be easier
either form list of parts you need to populate for chosen variant, or
form list of parts not needed fro chosen variant
that later one you can make comparing cumulative schmtc (most likely in post #1) vs. schm of chosen variant (post #624)
I despise generated BOMs; best way of learning is when one is making own BOM, from actual schematic and presented graphical files; if help of unfortunate designer is on disposal, even easier and better

Zenmod, Could not find R23, 120R. Confounding the problem for me, there are two 120K which I quickly and mistakenly thought were for R23. Remembered where they were last time I asked, sure enough, in little lettering in silk screen was "R23" on back of board..... Old dog here can at least learn easiest of new tricks. Newer stuff is getting tiny. I need either one of those hot table things and a hot air set up, or go back to big easy to see tubes.
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