There is no nice way to say this, Nigel, but I find this post misogynist and misogamist.
Frankly, I am surprised you have not been consigned to the sin-bin for a week of inner reflection on improving your ways and becoming a better, more inclusive person.
Misogyny is evident all around us. Consider this £1600 acrylic painting on display at my local art cinema:
I am surprised the female manager, Ayse, allowed it to be displayed. The artist, if a man of integrity, should have burnt it, rather than try and flog such a flawed work.
The original scene from the 1958 film "Ice Cold in Alex" makes clear why.
Harry Andrews, Anthony Quayle, Sylvia Syms and John Mills, of course. A ripping yarn set in North Africa in WW2.
Sylvia Syms did NOT have a squint! Just gazing at her lovelness did often lighten my mood as a young cinema buff.
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"There is no nice way to say this, Nigel, but I find this post misogynist and misogamist."
I both agree and disagree. The joke could be seen as a sign of misogynism, or a sign of the opposite. I myself love to play with our stereotypes, however this can only be done among people known to me.
One such example is the store chain Chlas Ohlson (that was much like Radio Shack back then). It is generally reffered to as "Men's kindergarten". The wife could leave her husband there while doing other matters for a few hours and then come and pick him up.
Also, being too picky can aggravate the battle for full equality between sexes as misogynists may address whatever they consider feminist rubbish. Like in Sweden han (he) and hon (she) has suddenly been replaced by the gender neutral word hen (hse??) and THAT has become a favourite talking point in all debates.
I both agree and disagree. The joke could be seen as a sign of misogynism, or a sign of the opposite. I myself love to play with our stereotypes, however this can only be done among people known to me.
One such example is the store chain Chlas Ohlson (that was much like Radio Shack back then). It is generally reffered to as "Men's kindergarten". The wife could leave her husband there while doing other matters for a few hours and then come and pick him up.
Also, being too picky can aggravate the battle for full equality between sexes as misogynists may address whatever they consider feminist rubbish. Like in Sweden han (he) and hon (she) has suddenly been replaced by the gender neutral word hen (hse??) and THAT has become a favourite talking point in all debates.
In the Scots Language, "hen" is used as a term of endearment or familiarity for a girl or woman.
As in "Happy Birthday hen".
I live amongst very strong and capable women. I fully respect and appreciate them. They know this full well. The women in my life respect and appreciate me. I know this full well. My wife makes man-jokes about me, completely in jest. I have never felt slighted or disrespected. I hear man-jokes all the time. I never get offended. It's a JOKE. If I forego my sense of humor, I would be very offended. I'm bald. I hear bald jokes, a lot. It doesn't bother me. I appreciate humor. If someone makes jokes with contempt and disrespect, I let it roll off my back. If I didn't it would be very damaging, to me. If a joke offends, can't we move on and not draw attention to it? When I was a child, we used a very effective axiom for name-calling and poor jokes, "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me." I think things have gotten to the point where we aren't expected to be self-assured enough that we can toughen up and blow things off. Humor is in serious danger in our world, and if we aren't allowed to say something someone might find objectionable, we will turn into automatons who are very limited in what we are allowed to say.
Just my two cents...
Just my two cents...
But that's why its so funny !
As Roy Chubby Brown would say "its just a !"£$ joke".
The pic in post 5136 almost made my privities want to crawl up into my body cavity to keep warm. Here in Cali, water is still resolutely liquid, except in the higher elevations. Some places have a bit too much, with flooding. I'm still waiting for the transition to Spring-type weather, here.
I've been married for close on 40 years.
During that time, I’ve learned that marriage is the best teacher of all.
It's taught me loyalty, forbearance, meekness, self-restraint, forgiveness and a great many other qualities I wouldn’t have needed if I’d stayed single.
As it seems you are quite specific about “witch” woman, I would find further conclusions unsupported.
But in the original scene they're all drinking.
In the cinema painting, one is smoking. No wonder she's squinting, natural reaction to the smoke.
Smoking, and drinking, is a natural displacement activity when confronted by the horrors of War, and even Sister Murdoch (Sylvia Syms) feels she has earned a lager:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cold_in_Alex
I have fact-checked the "squint" issue.
The wretched Painting:
The Original Ace Film:
I see no squint, only an ambivalent reflection on a dangerous mission which has reached a satisfactory ending.
Amusingly, and John Mills liked telling the story, the scene took half a dozen retakes, and since real Carlsberg lager was used, Mills was a "Little Heady" by the time they wrapped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cold_in_Alex
I have fact-checked the "squint" issue.
The wretched Painting:
The Original Ace Film:
I see no squint, only an ambivalent reflection on a dangerous mission which has reached a satisfactory ending.
Amusingly, and John Mills liked telling the story, the scene took half a dozen retakes, and since real Carlsberg lager was used, Mills was a "Little Heady" by the time they wrapped.
Ironically a lot women go to his shows.
But some people have a sense of humour.
As Galu mentioned, different context. Because, as a Colonial Canadian, I am basically halfway between a Brit and an American, and feel qualified to embellish.
A stag party is usually the night before a man's wedding and involves too much beer, whisky, tall tales and dedicated tomfoolery. It signifies the end of a man's freedom. The only women in attendance are usually of the hired kind.
The equivalent for the ladies is a stagette.
A hen party is a group of women getting together, for no particular reason to drink wine, gossip and complain about their men. The only men in attendance are usually the waiters.
The equivalent for men is boys night out, whereby they do the same things as they do at a stag just in a more reserved manner.