Hm I didn't think you'd like it but was just hoping so I don't have to keep searching haha. This size compromise I need is proving to be very difficult to meet. I haven't actually simmed smaller drivers to see what kind of xmax they'll need so may have to look at that, I was really liking the idea of an 8" is all. Two smaller drivers would be ideal but budget won't allow it for now. For me it's not just about the sound but also the aesthetics, obviously sound comes first though
Dave, I take it the enable process on the SDX7 doesn't make much difference when crossing over low? Still considering these as I like how small the enclosure can be
Peerless NE180W-08 is a good woofer that will be smaller than RS225-8 (my favorite woofer for FAST/WAW).
Peerless by Tymphany NE180W-08 6-1/2" Fiber Cone Woofer Speaker
Peerless by Tymphany NE180W-08 6-1/2" Fiber Cone Woofer Speaker
Hi XRK, thanks for the suggestion. It was your monitor with the RS225 that really got me interested in the WAW idea quite a while ago. It's been my intention for a very long time to make something similar, however I have had a lot of learning to do.
With a Q of around 0.8 before stuffing, the RS225 only needs about 16 litres. I was wondering if you have heard it in a smaller enclosure like this by any chance?
With a Q of around 0.8 before stuffing, the RS225 only needs about 16 litres. I was wondering if you have heard it in a smaller enclosure like this by any chance?
I don’t know. Never directly compared them. Step 1 in th eprocess certainly does make a difference (3 successively less coats of thinned modPodge) .
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No, I have not listened to it in a 16L box. I have heard two of them in an open baffle Z config (KaZBa) once and it sounded quite nice. That box was about 16L - but a totally different animal. There was some minor EQ'ing on this as I was using a miniDSP.
Rockin' the KaZba Dipole (K aperture Z-baffle Dipole)
I see. I do like the aesthetics of the enabled drivers anyway, I think if the cost is reasonable then it's worth it for looks alone. I'm thinking between these and the Dayton's in a higher q enclosure, something like 0.8.
That is interesting, I would love to hear something like tha
So are you making a whole new speaker using two pairs of 7ms?
The cosmetics have been mentioned before as an asset.
At this point in time, EnABL is something you will have to do yourself.
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Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought you previously said the drivers are $100 plus the cost of enable, so I assumed they had been enabled already
If you could get the drivers, and if i was still doing EnABL. That was what they cost when you could get them and gives an idea of what used ones would be worth.
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Someone might be able to talk me out of a pair, but they would go along with the boxes they are in so prohibitive to ship to the UK.
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Wow that looks great XRK. I'm tempted to try Heils for quite some time and this seems to be perfect candidate for second "compact" system scenario. I hope I will find details in linked thread.xrk971 said:
Regarding L26ROY: I was right about new model Dave. If you open the old D1001-04 page it states in first sentence, that it has been replaced by XM001-04. Of course you can download old datasheets.
Good news is, that I was wrong about almost same specs. New version has lower Vas, so it will allow even smaller enclosure.
FRFT: if you are considering shipping and VAT on SDX7 from US you are almost hitting the price of those Seas😉
The Heil are a great tweeter, not without issues. I had a pair of clients thatpreferred the other guy's tweeters (Heil vrs AC2 ribbon) and they swapped and were like PIS.
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I’ll have a look. Still have a monster resonance (close to 15 dB at 3.5kHz suggesting some work plus an XO at least 3 octaves lower (~440 Hz). But now is relatively flat up till it starts going chaotic. Good for a WAW. Better, as always, if you can use 2 push-push*.
* looks like my work on using 3 drivers might have a solution to having push-push with a front firing driver and minimization of any bipole dip.
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The l26roy looks like a beast but it is a whopping 250 euros per driver. The only way I can get something that expensive is if I wait a little longer and hope work goes well 😀
Than it was a win-win situation for both of them😀
Yes I was considering your push push strategy and I'm sure it could be the best solution for WAW, but its's true that those Seas are expensive, so I will start with a pair. At least I'll have an opportunity for improvements in future.
I agree about crossover point. I want to cross them as low as I can.
FRFT: I understand you totally, I also tried to find cheaper and reasonably compact solution. It was even more difficult as I wanted to go really low. Anyway I'm looking forward for your choice and your build report.
Yes I was considering your push push strategy and I'm sure it could be the best solution for WAW, but its's true that those Seas are expensive, so I will start with a pair. At least I'll have an opportunity for improvements in future.
I agree about crossover point. I want to cross them as low as I can.
FRFT: I understand you totally, I also tried to find cheaper and reasonably compact solution. It was even more difficult as I wanted to go really low. Anyway I'm looking forward for your choice and your build report.
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Ideally I'd like a couple 5/6 inch per side and set up a couple of crossovers, one a little higher like 700hz if needed for something like loud rock music. Maybe I'm just getting carried away with ideas
Scott & i have been on a quest for an inexpensive, but decent and useful, driver that size that fits the same role as the Silver Flute W14.
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