NE5534N best quality replacement?

The op amp is only part of the system that amplifies a signal and delivers it to speakers.
If your source is a 128 kbps MP3, it will still not improve with better parts.
I would pay more attention to a better set of speakers, and a proper matching amplifier.
Room treatment also counts a lot.

So like I said, find another itch to scratch.

I had an aunt who got upset when she had nothing to worry about.
Some people need to worry.
So find something else to do, like making a new unit, or amp, or speakers.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
Account Closed
Joined 2010
That was not my experience. Some years ago I put together a jig to test CMR vs freq and the NJM's CM performance was deeper at low freqs but not flat vs freq like the Signetics and Raytheons 5534's were. Analog Systems sold an MA-332 which was a Raytheon 5534 selected for, among other things, linear and deep CMR. The LM4562 and OP1642 are both very good in this respect, and quite consistent across different production runs.
You made me curious.If it's THE Jim Williams telling his opinions...
https://gearspace.com/board/geekzone/558450-best-drop-upgrade-ne5534ap-opamp-2.html
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20221003-235825_Samsung Internet.jpg
    Screenshot_20221003-235825_Samsung Internet.jpg
    230.9 KB · Views: 105
Account Closed
Joined 2010
Believe it or not , a few years back I gave up a pair of electrostatic headphones and a highly integrated 4700 $ 32 bit ess Dac + 32 bit adc + xmos asyncronous usb + electrostatics amplifier for just a little bit more op amps than what you see here and I actually don't regret it! Well I bought a 350 pounds Audient id22 to compensate for the digital loss :)
My real concern though about these ne5534 is why even a circuit with a minimum of 75 x gain based on ne5534 needs serious capacitive compensation (3 capacitors) in a microphone/line preamp when the datasheet says you need one capacitor for gains lower than 3x?
 

Attachments

  • 20221004_004504.jpg
    20221004_004504.jpg
    826.1 KB · Views: 166
  • 20221004_002816.jpg
    20221004_002816.jpg
    585.4 KB · Views: 159
  • 20221004_011903.jpg
    20221004_011903.jpg
    792.7 KB · Views: 172
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
You made me curious.If it's THE Jim Williams telling his opinions...
https://gearspace.com/board/geekzone/558450-best-drop-upgrade-ne5534ap-opamp-2.html
FYI there are two Jim Williams; the analog circuit designer who died in 2011, and the pro audio circuit guy writing in the link.

The info re: Raytheon 5534's and MA-332 is consistent with what I knew. I don't agree with Jim's negative assessment of them, though. In the mic pre's I designed and built at the time, the MA-332 was a clear improvement over the Sig 5534. JW also didn't like the OPA627 which I found to be excellent. Still do, actually.
 
Believe it or not , a few years back I gave up a pair of electrostatic headphones and a highly integrated 4700 $ 32 bit ess Dac + 32 bit adc + xmos asyncronous usb + electrostatics amplifier for just a little bit more op amps than what you see here and I actually don't regret it! Well I bought a 350 pounds Audient id22 to compensate for the digital loss :)
My real concern though about these ne5534 is why even a circuit with a minimum of 75 x gain based on ne5534 needs serious capacitive compensation (3 capacitors) in a microphone/line preamp when the datasheet says you need one capacitor for gains lower than 3x?
More than one voltage gain stage within the NFB loop is an issue in general.
Therefore I prefer op-amps with only one gain stage within the NFB loop (e. g. AD817, AD825 etc).
 
Find another itch to scratc

Slew rates above 15 are usless in audio.

Op Amp rolling is a foolish trend, better make a new op Amp, try to excel some good circuit designers...
Interesting.
What's the slew rate for the early 16bit/44.1kHz Red Book CD-DA? I read someone saying max. 2.1V/μs (or some pretty "low" values like that), but I can't remember exactly where.
Thanks.
 
Account Closed
Joined 2010
Seeing such divergent opinions on ne5534 must be coming from somewhere...is it the lack of knowledge on how to make a good circuit with ne5534, is it that some makes are just better than others and some datasheet may be lacking good app notes , dishonest opinions from some people or just the fact that our ears or tastes aren't the same?
I remember a friend of mine playing some tube reunion a trick. He came with a big heavy box ...everyone was utterly impressed with its sound compared to the other tube amplifiers, then the guy opened the box: inside were a construction brick to make it heavy and two tda2030...
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
Member
Joined 2002
Paid Member
Believe it or not , a few years back I gave up a pair of electrostatic headphones and a highly integrated 4700 $ 32 bit ess Dac + 32 bit adc + xmos asyncronous usb + electrostatics amplifier for just a little bit more op amps than what you see here and I actually don't regret it! Well I bought a 350 pounds Audient id22 to compensate for the digital loss :)
My real concern though about these ne5534 is why even a circuit with a minimum of 75 x gain based on ne5534 needs serious capacitive compensation (3 capacitors) in a microphone/line preamp when the datasheet says you need one capacitor for gains lower than 3x?
LM394s ... 😍
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users