Thanks. I really love that power supply board: it has built in soft start, and speaker protection. No having to try to coordinate 4 different boards. The amp itself is very pleasing. Ers Very clean and all the power you need. I would like to try some speakers that are on the warm side, as it is so clinically clean.
The Sanken 2SA1186 and 2SC2837 transistors are obsolete and replaced by 2SC3519A/2SA1386A 180Volts and 15A from Sanken.
Do you recommend using this type of boards to build this amplifier? I am going to use it with a 35V toroidal transformer, if you know a better one could you share the link with me. Thank you very much
Hello.
After some modifications, I have achieved the making of my L12-2 amplifier and I use it for 3 months now.
First of all, I want to say that I am very pleased of this amplifier :
The sound is very neutral, natural, airy and detailed.
There is no noise, humm or buzz and this enhances the sensation of space and air in the music (my loudspeakers, from the very good french manufacturer "Triangle", are separated by 2.30 meters/75 feets).
The stereo image is very wide and detailed (I have discovered in the mixes some instruments hidden before).
The dynamic is very high and well controlled.
The basses can be very fat or warm, with some attack or some good roundness, so the sound is never boomy.
The highs are clear and not harsh (it depends naturaly of the mix).
To conclude, I strongly recommend this amplifier (with the Sanken transistors). It must be coupled with a very good power supply to give his best.
In fact, I have changed my plans and decided to separate the PSU part from the amplifier to add a regulated stage to the PSU.
I have placed this parts in separate boxes : the PSU in the bottom box and the amplifier box at the upper side.
Each PSU (one PSU by channel) is now composed of a toroidal transformer (300VA 2x30v), a rectifier / filter stage (a Wondom product modified with 16 x 4700µF/85v nichicon capacitors for a total of 75 200 µF by channel), a premium regulated stage for +-40V/4.8A average/15A peak (a kit from the Elektor magazine) and a safety loop breaker circuit.
The PSU before and after assembly.
The rectifier / Filter stages (150 000 µF)
The regulated stage (+/- 40v)
The two loop breakers on the same PCB.
The PSU box ready to be coupled with the amplifier box.
Pictures of the amplifier will come ASAP.
After some modifications, I have achieved the making of my L12-2 amplifier and I use it for 3 months now.
First of all, I want to say that I am very pleased of this amplifier :
The sound is very neutral, natural, airy and detailed.
There is no noise, humm or buzz and this enhances the sensation of space and air in the music (my loudspeakers, from the very good french manufacturer "Triangle", are separated by 2.30 meters/75 feets).
The stereo image is very wide and detailed (I have discovered in the mixes some instruments hidden before).
The dynamic is very high and well controlled.
The basses can be very fat or warm, with some attack or some good roundness, so the sound is never boomy.
The highs are clear and not harsh (it depends naturaly of the mix).
To conclude, I strongly recommend this amplifier (with the Sanken transistors). It must be coupled with a very good power supply to give his best.
In fact, I have changed my plans and decided to separate the PSU part from the amplifier to add a regulated stage to the PSU.
I have placed this parts in separate boxes : the PSU in the bottom box and the amplifier box at the upper side.
Each PSU (one PSU by channel) is now composed of a toroidal transformer (300VA 2x30v), a rectifier / filter stage (a Wondom product modified with 16 x 4700µF/85v nichicon capacitors for a total of 75 200 µF by channel), a premium regulated stage for +-40V/4.8A average/15A peak (a kit from the Elektor magazine) and a safety loop breaker circuit.
The PSU before and after assembly.
The rectifier / Filter stages (150 000 µF)
The regulated stage (+/- 40v)
The two loop breakers on the same PCB.
The PSU box ready to be coupled with the amplifier box.
Pictures of the amplifier will come ASAP.
I have build a LJM L12-2 too. The Amp is powerd by a 300 Watt connex smps +-36 volt. The housing is a little to big, but i tried to use a transformer first.
Awfully i get some hum in the speakers and no chance to get it away. Now, powerd with the smps the hum is gone. The sound is very good as Dasoft wrote. No white noise, death silence.
I have done all changes or mods you can read about at Calvins Audiopage (thanks for the detailed informations). The bias is set to 45mA in each amp. Was not equel before. About+- 5mA differance as i get the boards from Aliexpress. The 2µh coil is not my best work. In other amps i choose 1,3mm copperwire, the coils get exact with on 15mm drill.
Greetings
Peter
Awfully i get some hum in the speakers and no chance to get it away. Now, powerd with the smps the hum is gone. The sound is very good as Dasoft wrote. No white noise, death silence.
I have done all changes or mods you can read about at Calvins Audiopage (thanks for the detailed informations). The bias is set to 45mA in each amp. Was not equel before. About+- 5mA differance as i get the boards from Aliexpress. The 2µh coil is not my best work. In other amps i choose 1,3mm copperwire, the coils get exact with on 15mm drill.
Greetings
Peter
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Hello,
here is the second part of my "making of".
Interior of the amplifier box (with the soft start circuit in the middle back, the shielded transformer of the speakers protection circuit, the speakers protection circuit in the middle and the amplifiers PCB mounted on heatsinks on the sides).
Other view of the components with the AC power filter on the left (in a metallic box).
The speakers protection circuit.
The soft start with thermal protection circuit with the shielded transformer for the speakers protection circuit.
The left channel amplifier PCB with his heatsink before mounting.
The same element installed in the box (with a temperature sensor on the right)
View from the back of the amplifier and the PSU.
View from the front (with amplifier working).
Now I must build the DAC / Preamplifier / volume control...
Thank you every one in this thread for their advice and help.
here is the second part of my "making of".
Interior of the amplifier box (with the soft start circuit in the middle back, the shielded transformer of the speakers protection circuit, the speakers protection circuit in the middle and the amplifiers PCB mounted on heatsinks on the sides).
Other view of the components with the AC power filter on the left (in a metallic box).
The speakers protection circuit.
The soft start with thermal protection circuit with the shielded transformer for the speakers protection circuit.
The left channel amplifier PCB with his heatsink before mounting.
The same element installed in the box (with a temperature sensor on the right)
View from the back of the amplifier and the PSU.
View from the front (with amplifier working).
Now I must build the DAC / Preamplifier / volume control...
Thank you every one in this thread for their advice and help.
I got two boards from this seller too. Powering from +/- 40V and they seems fine to me. How do yours sound?
Hi there gentlements! First post here but I'm a pretty old newbe...(63) After I seen few video from Michael Beeny ou "Youtobby" I enjoy them a lot! To bad he quit doing it because that men is pure gold! The LJM L12-2 is his favorite amplifier apparently so I decide to gvie it a try, I purchase 2 modules from "laserworld2014" on "Eburp", the picture show clearly Vers 3 but I receive Ver 4.2 and the design seem different and the board is not the same, look at the pictures I joint and see for yourself. I'm wondering if it's a legit LJM and if it's a new design what correction have been made, is it possible to do mod on this one? I just hope this is not a crappy copy of the real deal... Best regards Gilles.
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LJM is present on the forum and his email is printed on the PCB, send him a message and you will know.
I have had the same version 4.2 and have had no major issues with the boards. I did have distortion on one board which turned out to be one of the large 5 watt resistors had gone bad.. Replacing it solved the issue. Not sure what the improvements or differences might be, but contacting LJM is the best way to go.
I replaced all the caps on these boards with better quality ones and found the sound was better to my ears anyway, probably just me. Good luck..
I replaced all the caps on these boards with better quality ones and found the sound was better to my ears anyway, probably just me. Good luck..
I send a Email to lmj_lmj thank you! I'm more concern about getting a diagram/layout/schematic... for this "Updated" version since some parts are missing or moved arround on this board. This is just a fun project done with surplus parts for my garage, all module were already built and I spot some welding who need attention, so I will check all connection and test most of the parts before applying power to them. If this turn out to be a gem I will built a set of DIY board with low esr cap and few NOS parts I collected since 1976, my ears may thank me for this.
Just got a answer from ljm_ljm...:
VER 4.2 is authentic. It is better than V4.0. There is a better low-frequency. Smaller distortion.
More stable and reliable.
Use with confidence. Do not purchase VER 3. VER4. Because this could be a fake.
Fake goods will not be updated. It only has the old version.
There is currently no information available.
VER 4.2 is authentic. It is better than V4.0. There is a better low-frequency. Smaller distortion.
More stable and reliable.
Use with confidence. Do not purchase VER 3. VER4. Because this could be a fake.
Fake goods will not be updated. It only has the old version.
There is currently no information available.