Center channel
Howdy,
I was looking over the plans for the FH3 and FH3 Lite and noticed that there aren't any plans for a center channel speaker on the Lite plans (or XL for that matter). Have any ever been drawn up? I'm considering a 5.1 home theater set up and would likely use the Lites due to space limitations. And perhaps just the stock enclosure for the surrounds. Any thoughts or suggestions?? Most likely go with the Fostex FF85WK since I already have a pair of those drivers.
Howdy,
I was looking over the plans for the FH3 and FH3 Lite and noticed that there aren't any plans for a center channel speaker on the Lite plans (or XL for that matter). Have any ever been drawn up? I'm considering a 5.1 home theater set up and would likely use the Lites due to space limitations. And perhaps just the stock enclosure for the surrounds. Any thoughts or suggestions?? Most likely go with the Fostex FF85WK since I already have a pair of those drivers.
The cente plans have been posted separately. They are all compact miniOnkens for centre channel use. Released as people asked.
Given time i can dig you up a set of URLs. Which driver is most important for your work?
dave
Thanks Dave,
I've seen the miniOnken plans on one of your websites, are those what you are referring to? The center channel speakers on the FH3 plans all have a more rectangular (and in landscape mode) enclosure, all of the Onkens I saw were more of a traditional (portrait) format. The driver I'm most interested in at this point is the FF85WK.
Bob
The center channel speakers on the FH3 plans all have a more rectangular (and in landscape mode) enclosure
That is a centre channel miniOnken. I expect the plans are somewhat scattered.
dave
What is the minimum driver efficiency you would recommend?
Depends on how loud he likes to listen, and his room.
And most amps that size are SE tube amps and the output impedance can affect performance (ie an FE126 really wants one, mpst pf the Alairs don’t care so much.
More info?
dave
So the alpairs will be fine, although perhaps not quite as loud as the Fostex? I believe he is talking about an amp with 8ohms output impedance. He was showing me the plans and talking about power transformers. Not sure what you mean about the Alpairs not caring and the FE126 wanting one. One what??
Bob
Bob
Yes. About 4 dB. The FE126 will sound like he has 2 x the power. But with the FE126 it is much harder to get bass (even with the aforementioned hiOutputR amp.
The 8Ω he said is the nominal speaker impedance and is related to the OPT. OutputR is a different thing.
I am working on a tutorialish thing on amps in “The Fringe”. A teaser.
Your guys amp probably falls into the same range as the ACA. Anyone in, or near the fringe needs to start to think about how the speaker impedance interacts with the higher output impedance of the amplifier.
dave
The 8Ω he said is the nominal speaker impedance and is related to the OPT. OutputR is a different thing.
I am working on a tutorialish thing on amps in “The Fringe”. A teaser.
Your guys amp probably falls into the same range as the ACA. Anyone in, or near the fringe needs to start to think about how the speaker impedance interacts with the higher output impedance of the amplifier.
dave
Not sure what you mean about the Alpairs not caring and the FE126 wanting one. One what??
I think Dave was referring to amplifiers with a relatively high output impedance, like single ended tube amps.
Ok, you beat me by 6 minutes.
jeff
That is a centre channel miniOnken. I expect the plans are somewhat scattered.
dave
Hi Dave,
Are you saying that this center channel is a miniOnken design? And if so, do you have drawings somewhere for one using the FF885WK?
Thanks,
Bob
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Ok, I'm in the process of acquiring the flat packs, Thanks Bob! I'm confused, is the Alpair 10.3, the same as the Alpair 10M? I'll be running these with a 15W Son Of Zen. I have a pair of Alpair 10.2 that have been sitting in a box that I had planned on putting into the Pensil 10.2, haven't put that together yet. I've read here that those should be ok for the FHXL....any thoughts on a driver selection with the SOZ?
Ok, I'm in the process of acquiring the flat packs, Thanks Bob! I'm confused, is the Alpair 10.3, the same as the Alpair 10M? I'll be running these with a 15W Son Of Zen. I have a pair of Alpair 10.2 that have been sitting in a box that I had planned on putting into the Pensil 10.2, haven't put that together yet. I've read here that those should be ok for the FHXL....any thoughts on a driver selection with the SOZ?
Are you saying that this center channel is a miniOnken design? And if so, do you have drawings somewhere for one using the FF885WK?
Yes, it is a miniOnken, I checked, no i have not done the FF85wk one. It will be the same as the one for the A5.2 but with different venting & driver mounting details.
I will get onto getting a finished drawing done.
dave
... Alpair 10.3, the same as the Alpair 10M?
Yes. Officially Alpair 10.3a (a for arrester). Your amp should be fine)
A10.2 will fit into the same cutout and work well in FHXL.
dave
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