Manzanita OB
Hello John,
I have seen this thread now and have been reading about the lifelike and lively sound of your manzanitas in various shows. Can you recommend various requirements for a floor standing OB?
Hello John,
I have seen this thread now and have been reading about the lifelike and lively sound of your manzanitas in various shows. Can you recommend various requirements for a floor standing OB?
Getting a positive start on your OB project!
Mekr
Thank you for your interest in the Manzanita OB.
As for a floor standing OB, there are several considerations to be made before a cost effective, viable design should be undertaken. Many potentially good designs are possible.
I suspect you have something in mind. One major consideration is driver availability. Don't want to make recommendations based around drivers that you may not have access to.
Could you share your priorities with us? Cost range, performance goals, anything unusual you may have to work around, so on. And what driver brands you have reasonable access to.
Looking forward to your reply.
John
Mekr
Thank you for your interest in the Manzanita OB.
As for a floor standing OB, there are several considerations to be made before a cost effective, viable design should be undertaken. Many potentially good designs are possible.
I suspect you have something in mind. One major consideration is driver availability. Don't want to make recommendations based around drivers that you may not have access to.
Could you share your priorities with us? Cost range, performance goals, anything unusual you may have to work around, so on. And what driver brands you have reasonable access to.
Looking forward to your reply.
John
I know this is not directed to me, but like to respond. I have access to usual speaker web sites in US. PE, madisound etc.
I like the "cost-effective" solution. I am mainly into 2 speaker traditional music, usually with flac file on PC with a DAC (cheap USB soundcard). I enjoy popular vocal/small ensemble jazz, no rock/metal... Do not need super bass at all. Also like to use my 50W/ch high power D-amp, in a small room.
thanks,
I like the "cost-effective" solution. I am mainly into 2 speaker traditional music, usually with flac file on PC with a DAC (cheap USB soundcard). I enjoy popular vocal/small ensemble jazz, no rock/metal... Do not need super bass at all. Also like to use my 50W/ch high power D-amp, in a small room.
thanks,
The Manzanita with the the 3" FR driver will do that nicely. John should have a refined crossover for it soon.
Hello John,
I will have to source everything including drivers and xover components from abroad,my main priority is emotional,and delicate music with the lifelike presence of the musicians in the room.Even if i have to spend more for this i can spend more also.
thanks
Would this be the proper vifa driver for the updated manzanita?
Vifa TC9FD18-08, 3.5" Full Range: Madisound Speaker Store
I would like to get the drivers and begin making dust for this project.
Vifa TC9FD18-08, 3.5" Full Range: Madisound Speaker Store
I would like to get the drivers and begin making dust for this project.
I built the speakers according to the first few posts i.e. crossover from post #3
The 25ohm resistor is way off the mark, luckily I bought 10 off them, so have doubled it up to produce 12.5ohm as suggested by a few posts.
The sound is still sour however.
3 x 25ohm in parallel sounds a little better (i.e. 8.3ohm), but I could spend weeks http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/110583-fast-fun-inexpensive-ob-project-28.html#post2247787trying different combinations. I'm guessing somewhere nearer 5ohm is about right?
Anyone want to offer me some values to try?
The 25ohm resistor is way off the mark, luckily I bought 10 off them, so have doubled it up to produce 12.5ohm as suggested by a few posts.
The sound is still sour however.
3 x 25ohm in parallel sounds a little better (i.e. 8.3ohm), but I could spend weeks http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/110583-fast-fun-inexpensive-ob-project-28.html#post2247787trying different combinations. I'm guessing somewhere nearer 5ohm is about right?
Anyone want to offer me some values to try?
here is a question....
i wonder if its possible to make a pair of those based on 8" woofers but also for very low power ( 5-10W of listening ) eventhough conected to a 80w amplifier
the problem is that these are supposed to be "very" near field located in my shop just in front of me on my working bench
distance be tween them might be no more than 2.5 meters and they can be also placed no more than 20 cm from the wall ...
do you think worth trying ?
i wonder if its possible to make a pair of those based on 8" woofers but also for very low power ( 5-10W of listening ) eventhough conected to a 80w amplifier
the problem is that these are supposed to be "very" near field located in my shop just in front of me on my working bench
distance be tween them might be no more than 2.5 meters and they can be also placed no more than 20 cm from the wall ...
do you think worth trying ?
Dipole bass is said to suffer near a wall. You might need the amplifier power anyway since the dipole roloff reqires lots of EQ boost.
Also if the rear wall is so close it might sound weird.
Also if the rear wall is so close it might sound weird.
The EQ us done with the passive crossover. Making it smaller and close to the wall, I don't know how well that would work. The baffles are quick and easy to make, tho, it's the crossover work that takes time.
Hi Sakis , You can put 'em in an H-frame ...it will become halfway between dipole and aperiodic 🙄😕
If you already have the original baffle of the 8" woofers , just cut a square around the hole .
I did it in a 3 way speaker with cheap speakers ( 4 Ohm ) I had around and it works good (the mid is in a cube box , tweeter outside ,on top ) .
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The OB project does not seem complicated construction, and according to the responses also sounds good.
Not long ago I had VR4-JR, that sounds great but required very expensive amplification to produce high-quality sound. I decided to try to build something cheap and good that did not require expensive amplification.
So, waiting for more information on new models, especially for floor standing OB version. 🙂
Not long ago I had VR4-JR, that sounds great but required very expensive amplification to produce high-quality sound. I decided to try to build something cheap and good that did not require expensive amplification.
So, waiting for more information on new models, especially for floor standing OB version. 🙂
The floor standing model is the H.E. (High Efficiency). It uses an 8" fullrange and an 18" woofer. Not a small speaker. The 12" version will remain a stand mount speaker.
Besides efficiency, what differences in planning and sound of the two models?
And what about Manzanita BFTB?
And what about Manzanita BFTB?
Hello Simon
Thank you for your question. Its' been along time since Pano and I worked on the orginal Manzinita with the 27 TDFC tweeter. Could you tell me your current crossover configuration? Want to make sure I know where you are before trying to get you where you want to be.
John
Thank you for your question. Its' been along time since Pano and I worked on the orginal Manzinita with the 27 TDFC tweeter. Could you tell me your current crossover configuration? Want to make sure I know where you are before trying to get you where you want to be.
John