White noise 'sounds' like a waterfall - these ones 'look' happy, no?Spooky, like hearing voices in white noise 🙂
The second one has horns.
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Were you around for the Great Smog of London in December 1952?
That was a proper pea-souper!
I was too young to remember but pea-soupers continued well into the 60's.
I do remember walking home and not seeing more that a couple of yards and a big oil lamp flame on a corner to warn of a road junction.
Smog in Manchester, London and Sheffield in the 1950s and 60s - Manchester Evening News
Fires are a natural phenomenen.
Usually caused by dry vegetation and lightning.
The only way to protect from them is remove vegetation around homes etc.
Who was the American guy that suggested that if the leaves had been raked, there would not have been those fires in California?
Who was the American guy that suggested that if the leaves had been raked, there would not have been those fires in California?
lol thye need to remove all vegetation around buildings/towns etc to stop the fires.
Ah, the one with notes of crassThe wife was gifted a bottle of Smokey Bay wine from Australia for Christmas.
Interesting trivia: Magpie birds in SE Australia mimic often heard sounds. Kind of like a parrot, only much better.
Several birds were recorded (re)producing the wailing sound of fire engine sirens - uncanny real!
Jan
Several birds were recorded (re)producing the wailing sound of fire engine sirens - uncanny real!
Jan
I remember my dad telling my about the horseshoe fire in 1968 around Mt Yarrahapinni Near Macksville NSW. He said there were 200 ft flames and when it was over there was not a single tree left standing, just bare hills as far as you could see (there was a lot of erosion after the fires). Go there now (even in the mid to late 70's when I was living in the area) and you would never know it had been completely razed.
I don't know of any loss of life or property with that fire, but I do know that my dad said it was pretty terrifying.
Tony.
The typical Australian gum forest regenerates itself really fast so that in just say 5 years it is hard to tell that there was even a fire. Other Australian fuel and forest types regenerate much slower. The coastal rain forest that has burned this season will likely take a long time to regenerate itself after it gets enough rain to do so. And if the drought conditions persist, who knows. Eventually nature recovers in what ever way it can.
As to the fire start issues....................
The ABC link is pretty much the same as everything else I've read as far as arson goes. As I mentioned before, it's fairly easy to determine if a fire is started by lightning. All others are human caused and there are many categories of that, arson being just one. In theory, all human caused fires are 100% preventable. Reality is not quite so neat however.
Well, be assured, planet earth and life on it WILL survive, if mankind does is another question...
I used to have a dog that would mimic firetruck and ambulance sounds. We have a fire station about two blocks away so they get a bit of exposure.
Interesting trivia: Magpie birds in SE Australia mimic often heard sounds. Kind of like a parrot, only much better.
Several birds were recorded (re)producing the wailing sound of fire engine sirens - uncanny real!
Jan
Also the ABC has another update on the causes of the fires. The truth about Australia's fires — arsonists aren't responsible for many this season - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Tony.
This is a good article, if one reads the whole article. However, if one just reads the headline and the first sentence in bold type, well 1% is 1% and 1% of most anything is trivial. If one stops there well, end of the arson crisis craze for sure.
But if one continues reading the article to include information about Queensland and Tasmania, it's all not so trivial. Nonetheless, those fires are essentially out. So I guess we can all forget about those too.
Whats the level of Australian forestry? Do you have any mandatory bush clearings around the settlements ?
^ The answer to that is going to depend on who answers 😉 My Dad was a district forester so some people would say my views are biased.
He was working on Harvesting plans with a 100 year window. Yes they were planning for 100 years in advance. He was also doing research into the impacts of logging on wildlife, especially endangered species, and would be regularly looking for any areas which needed to be avoided, or given special attention.
One very interesting thing that they found was that certain trees were more important to Koala's than others, they were like the social hub. It was important to identify these particular trees to ensure they were not logged.
In a lot of area's people take the risk and have houses that are within 10's of meters of bush. In my suburb there are gum trees down every street. When the catastrophic fire danger rating was announced late last year in Sydney, I went home and cleared all of the leaves from my gutters, even though the nearest large tract of bushland is probably more than 10KM away. Embers from a bush fire can be carried by the wind for at least 30KM and have been known to go 100KM. Just one dropping in a gutter full of leaves will likely result in your house burning down.
One of the reports I saw a woman lived on a farm, no trees near the house and just paddocks, they were told to evacuate, she didn't believe that there house could be in danger, but when they returned the house was gone. The extreme heat and high winds in these fires can cause things to burn that you would not think were at risk.
A satellite view around St Ives, an affluent area in Sydney should answer your question 🙂
Google Maps
That is well within 30KM of my place. There are small pockets of bush within 1KM of my place, only a few hectares.
On the controlled burning. It has been done but as mentioned in the article Bonzai posted, the window of opportunity to do it is small, and the sheer size of the forrested areas makes it a mamoth task. Usually only a small parcel can be done each year.
Before the 1991 fires in Sydney there had been a lot of outcry about controlled burning being destructive to the environment and causing pollution, and for a number of years prior it was no longer being done. After those fires where so much more damage was done, common sense prevailed and controlled burning was resumed.
It's like everything, generations who have not experienced the devestation cannot understand why something is necessary until they see it for themseleves.
I know there were a lot of cut backs in the late 90's and early 2000's in the Forrestry dept. My dad has been retired for probably at least 15 years, so I don't have any insight into what is going on these days.
Tony.
He was working on Harvesting plans with a 100 year window. Yes they were planning for 100 years in advance. He was also doing research into the impacts of logging on wildlife, especially endangered species, and would be regularly looking for any areas which needed to be avoided, or given special attention.
One very interesting thing that they found was that certain trees were more important to Koala's than others, they were like the social hub. It was important to identify these particular trees to ensure they were not logged.
In a lot of area's people take the risk and have houses that are within 10's of meters of bush. In my suburb there are gum trees down every street. When the catastrophic fire danger rating was announced late last year in Sydney, I went home and cleared all of the leaves from my gutters, even though the nearest large tract of bushland is probably more than 10KM away. Embers from a bush fire can be carried by the wind for at least 30KM and have been known to go 100KM. Just one dropping in a gutter full of leaves will likely result in your house burning down.
One of the reports I saw a woman lived on a farm, no trees near the house and just paddocks, they were told to evacuate, she didn't believe that there house could be in danger, but when they returned the house was gone. The extreme heat and high winds in these fires can cause things to burn that you would not think were at risk.
A satellite view around St Ives, an affluent area in Sydney should answer your question 🙂
Google Maps
That is well within 30KM of my place. There are small pockets of bush within 1KM of my place, only a few hectares.
On the controlled burning. It has been done but as mentioned in the article Bonzai posted, the window of opportunity to do it is small, and the sheer size of the forrested areas makes it a mamoth task. Usually only a small parcel can be done each year.
Before the 1991 fires in Sydney there had been a lot of outcry about controlled burning being destructive to the environment and causing pollution, and for a number of years prior it was no longer being done. After those fires where so much more damage was done, common sense prevailed and controlled burning was resumed.
It's like everything, generations who have not experienced the devestation cannot understand why something is necessary until they see it for themseleves.
I know there were a lot of cut backs in the late 90's and early 2000's in the Forrestry dept. My dad has been retired for probably at least 15 years, so I don't have any insight into what is going on these days.
Tony.
Whats the level of Australian forestry? Do you have any mandatory bush clearings around the settlements ?
It varies widely.
The northern, western and southern extremities of Sydney are quite geographically rugged, bush infested suburbs with gum trees everywhere.
There are quite a few river systems with steep slopes, many houses on or on-top of those slopes.
It's a really beautiful region but with climate change and drought, very susceptible to bush fires.
First fairly decent widespread rain (in NSW) is forecast starting this Thursday.
Hope and pray.
TCD
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