Yes... the smaller monitor have a more tube friendly curve and seems not affected by the longer wires on the tube amp.
For the solid state it makes no difference. It is very strange effect because both measures exactly the same!
My otitis doesn't help at all! I hope it resolves fast...
For the solid state it makes no difference. It is very strange effect because both measures exactly the same!
My otitis doesn't help at all! I hope it resolves fast...
I assume you have not done proper AB testing or have other evidence other than your subjective opinion. No need to belittle opinions of other members as yours are no better.Perhaps some members using headphones only never heared density of sound in space, the arrangement of images on the sound stage, it's widht and depth.
I found in my stack of stuff old NewClassD 79xx regulators! I am going to install this instead for my -12V
I don't belittle anyone, just thinking that there are people who are not familiar with listening to music in a good stereo field. I listened to music on headphones for a long time for family reasons and now I know this difference very well.No need to belittle opinions of other members as yours are no better.
Maybe, I have IEMs KZ ZS10 Pro, AKG K361, Grado SR80, not very expensive ones, but I don't see the point for myself so buy something more expensive exactly in headphones. But the difference between any components is very hearable for me just with bookshelf speakers (4" coaxial drivers in 80cm from ears) with modern D-class amplifier.headphones preamp is or not good, or your headphones lakes of quality to hear the differences
I bought today another chineese DAC, used Fiio K7 with dual AK4493S and balanced headphones amplifier for good value, later will post here a mention about this device.
Naturally I listen with headphones and speakers. For detecting minute differences in well measuring devices headphones are much more revealing. Soundstage is a subjective illusion that audiophiles mistake for an objective indicator. If you think DSD has better soundstage, good for you, not necessarily for others.I don't belittle anyone, just thinking that there are people who are not familiar with listening to music in a good stereo field.
I don't think that about DSD, and it is subjective thing in stereo but it exist. In headphones I hear too much sounds (information) right in head, which is acceptable, detailed but it is flat.Soundstage is a subjective illusion that audiophiles mistake for an objective indicator. If you think DSD has better soundstage
Then you aren't doing it right. Flat dynamics is an old complaint about DSD. When properly implemented there is no problem with dynamics....detailed but it is flat.
you have no sound stage with headphones, its comes from interaction of the stereo sound in the room. But that has nothing to do with Chinese dacs...
I mean about sound in headphones, not about DSD.Then you aren't doing it right. Flat dynamics
Sound stage is present in headphones, but it is a small % of a sound stage with speakers. As I understand (could be wrong about reason) the amount and dimensions of sound stage in room in front of stereo system is corellated with phase characteristics of sound, and it depends a lot on clocks in audio equipment. But I clearly hear this difference with noname oscillator and 3USD NDK.
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Not IME. You still have the soundstage of the room in which the audio was recorded (depending on how the recording was made, of course). Its just that the entire soundstage is very small, like the distance between your ears. Makes it hard to localize and hard to judge.you have no sound stage with headphones...
May be, but the location of sound sources in the reality of sounds (not in those reproduced by an audio system) is a characteristic of the sense of hearing that no one can question.Soundstage is a subjective illusion
So perhaps it is not so correct to call it an "illusion". IMO
However, I think that if the same person (listener) who perceives a soundstage in one system, then also perceives it in another system, he certainly does not perceive two identical soundstages.
And if there are differences between the two systems, and they cannot not exist, then he can even evaluate them.
If the above were true, then the perceived soundstage would not be an illusion at all.
Furthermore, at the end of the day it seems that for many people listening has very little of "objective" in any case, even if we are not talking about soundstages.
And then it does not change anything anyway, but the soundstages perceived through a system or through a single piece of equipment are not all the same.
Regardless of whether one perceives them or not.
So it is an "illusion" up to a certain point, otherwise one would be entitled to think that if a listener does not perceive the soundstage it is an issue of the listener, not of the system or the piece of equipment.
Anyway for what it is worth and for the recent past I have written so much on this subject that I do not feel like repeating it more than this.
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I don't belittle anyone, just thinking that there are people who are not familiar with listening to music in a good stereo field. I listened to music on headphones for a long time for family reasons and now I know this difference very well.
Maybe, I have IEMs KZ ZS10 Pro, AKG K361, Grado SR80, not very expensive ones, but I don't see the point for myself so buy something more expensive exactly in headphones. But the difference between any components is very hearable for me just with bookshelf speakers (4" coaxial drivers in 80cm from ears) with modern D-class amplifier.
I bought today another chineese DAC, used Fiio K7 with dual AK4493S and balanced headphones amplifier for good value, later will post here a mention about this device.
As said there are a lot of reasons you don't heard the differences using headphones or loudspeakers, the matter isn't to use expensive gear, the matter is to optimize the gear you have, for example: gain is optimized in your system, impedances are optimized, because I can assure there is a lot of difference for SQ using a very good linear PSU than a SMPS that are polluting the AC of all system. Something isn't good in your headphone system.
haha, I ditched the ad8507 as I/V and placed the 1611 instead, and kept the op134 as output.
Best all all worlds , I readjusted the MSB and first bit, and I ordered a hificollective regulator for my other dac -12V
Now I am happy, the 1611 as increased even more the resolution, it is very extended with details to the very top end of spectrum which I can hear. And I like the sound of the op134, it is not so bad.
Best all all worlds , I readjusted the MSB and first bit, and I ordered a hificollective regulator for my other dac -12V
Now I am happy, the 1611 as increased even more the resolution, it is very extended with details to the very top end of spectrum which I can hear. And I like the sound of the op134, it is not so bad.
others think floor noise is also important, iirc iancanada mentioned something about sounding ‘fat’ otherwiseThe other thing I wanted to mention was about center imaging with DSD, what I have found so far is that it’s sensitive to clocking close-in phase noise.
I will find out, fyi my clocks came in at -150dbc/Hz floor initially so had to make adjustments to bring it down futher. Others like ndk and Accusilicon also indicate likewise. Andrea Mori did not think floor noise that critical, so jury still out there
my floor is 6 foot below me, which gives me -20db of noise floor, great!!!! now lets talk about -130db dacx!!!! , of course this is to listen to my favorite banjo recording , circa1952.
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