Lars Clausen said:Ravslanka: Remember to consider what happens if one rail fuse blows, but the other one doesn't. In some designs you get full DC on the output terminal, which can damage your speakers, and even start a fire.
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Lars Clausen
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Lars Clausen
i already had taste of smoke with this amplifier.i will be very carrefulll this time.what about the questions in my post.
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ravs
be a vegeterian,
Sorry Ravslanka, i dont think i should be the one to answer the questions. I looked at the circuit, and it looks ok. However the high gate capacitance of the MOSFET's paired with the 330 Ohms, tells me, that you will have problems with high frequencies. The feedback loop can compensate for some of it, until the phase shift of the closed loop collides with the anti-oscillation capacitors' cutoff frequency. I think i'd have placed a buffer before the gates, to speed things up a bit, and get a good bandwidth of the amplifers.
Lars Clausen said:Sorry Ravslanka, i dont think i should be the one to answer the questions. I looked at the circuit, and it looks ok. However the high gate capacitance of the MOSFET's paired with the 330 Ohms, tells me, that you will have problems with high frequencies. The feedback loop can compensate for some of it, until the phase shift of the closed loop collides with the anti-oscillation capacitors' cutoff frequency. I think i'd have placed a buffer before the gates, to speed things up a bit, and get a good bandwidth of the amplifers.
hi Lars Clausen,
this circuit is already discused over here and many amps have been build the circuit is proven.i myself have one running for about 5-6 months.i was just askng if this pcb layout gona work.
thanks
ravs
be a vegeterian.
ravslanka;
You would do well to heed Lars Clausen's advice regarding driving the IRF mosfets - take a look at Nelson Pass's redesign of the HK Citation 12 for an example of using a buffer transistor. Also, take a look at how QUAD use a buffer transistor in their 405 current-dumping amplifier.
No offence, quasi, I like your design a lot !!!
You would do well to heed Lars Clausen's advice regarding driving the IRF mosfets - take a look at Nelson Pass's redesign of the HK Citation 12 for an example of using a buffer transistor. Also, take a look at how QUAD use a buffer transistor in their 405 current-dumping amplifier.
No offence, quasi, I like your design a lot !!!
hi quasi and others.
i have made a new board of actrk600.iam testing the board with only
one pair of output and +-44 vdc.i can set the bias but i could not get down the dc offset to 0 volts the last i can set is 96 mv..i have changed the trimpot and have checked t1,t2 and t3 they are ok.do you guys have any idea whats wong with it
http://www.adam.com.au/cgpap/QuasiWeb/pdf's/Actrk Nmos600 schematic.pdf
i will be posting the pics tommorrow.
thanks
ravs
be a vegeterian.
i have made a new board of actrk600.iam testing the board with only
one pair of output and +-44 vdc.i can set the bias but i could not get down the dc offset to 0 volts the last i can set is 96 mv..i have changed the trimpot and have checked t1,t2 and t3 they are ok.do you guys have any idea whats wong with it
http://www.adam.com.au/cgpap/QuasiWeb/pdf's/Actrk Nmos600 schematic.pdf
i will be posting the pics tommorrow.
thanks
ravs
be a vegeterian.
Hi Ravs,
it might be the earth connection is bad or perhaps another power supply issue. 96mV should not ruin a speaker but it is nice to get it to <25mV
-Dan
it might be the earth connection is bad or perhaps another power supply issue. 96mV should not ruin a speaker but it is nice to get it to <25mV
-Dan
danieljw said:Hi Ravs,
it might be the earth connection is bad or perhaps another power supply issue. 96mV should not ruin a speaker but it is nice to get it to <25mV
-Dan
hi danieljw,
i didnt find anything wrong or earth missing in the board.i modified the output stage pcb layout but didnt altered the predriver layout below is the pcb layout.setting 0.35 volt across 10 ohm resistors iam getting
r32=7.1mv r33=10.8mv
r19=2.28 volts r17=3.85 volts and diffrential on r7(18k)=32.5 volts
removing the output pairs and checking the dc offset its 5 volts which could not be vared through vr1.
pcb layout
thanks
ravs
be a vegeteian
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i am not sure ravs,,,, usually the input stage sets up the offset perhaps a resistor is slightly wrong or perhaps the input pair has a transistor in the wrong spot or the gain of the input pair could be too different to trim out....
- just a few ideas to check
-Dan
- just a few ideas to check
-Dan
hi danieljw,
i added one more output pair to the board and powered up. now threres another problem.rebiased it.around 0.60 volts across 10 ohm resistor.powering the amp of and then on.the reading goes to 15 to 18 volts.i again set the bias and do same thing the reading also comes to be the same 15 to 18 volts.changing the trimpot doesent make any difference.but when i set bias to around 0.44 volts it doesent happen anymore the same.the reading stays around 0.40 to 0.44 and dc offset can also. be set to 3-4mv.all the arts i used are new.
quasi
please help me out.iam stuck with it.
thanks
ravs
be a vegeterian.
i added one more output pair to the board and powered up. now threres another problem.rebiased it.around 0.60 volts across 10 ohm resistor.powering the amp of and then on.the reading goes to 15 to 18 volts.i again set the bias and do same thing the reading also comes to be the same 15 to 18 volts.changing the trimpot doesent make any difference.but when i set bias to around 0.44 volts it doesent happen anymore the same.the reading stays around 0.40 to 0.44 and dc offset can also. be set to 3-4mv.all the arts i used are new.
quasi
please help me out.iam stuck with it.
thanks
ravs
be a vegeterian.
Hi ravslanka,
Kindly check the grounding ,it looks like you missed the big/long jumper wire from the main ground connection going to another point.
Take a look again from quasi web page.
http://www.adam.com.au/cgpap/QuasiWeb/pdf%27s/Actrk400%20layout%20&%20tracks.pdf
cheers
Kindly check the grounding ,it looks like you missed the big/long jumper wire from the main ground connection going to another point.
Take a look again from quasi web page.
http://www.adam.com.au/cgpap/QuasiWeb/pdf%27s/Actrk400%20layout%20&%20tracks.pdf
cheers
stcboy said:Hi ravslanka,
Kindly check the grounding ,it looks like you missed the big/long jumper wire from the main ground connection going to another point.
Take a look again from quasi web page.
http://www.adam.com.au/cgpap/QuasiWeb/pdf%27s/Actrk400%20layout%20&%20tracks.pdf
cheers
hi stcboy,
please have a look again ground is connected through a small jumper in the red circle.
thanks
ravs
be a vegeterian.
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Hi, another question, where did you buy this big heatsinks, hard to get outside china...
sorry cant support you because dont have build this design...
Do you have add short circuit protection in your layout ?
sorry cant support you because dont have build this design...
Do you have add short circuit protection in your layout ?
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hi guys, sorry for jumping in. I love to build this circuit and planning to build one myself but can anybody give me some comments about this circuit's sound quality, it will be very helpful. thanks a lot.
hi guys, sorry for jumping in. I love to build this circuit and planning to build one myself but can anybody give me some comments about this circuit's sound quality, it will be very helpful. thanks a lot.
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