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P30ZF test

Alright, without the THD measurement..no tools ready for that.
The only thing i am concerned about is the DC offset.
At the power on, the offset is around 3V going down very fast. After 20s we have around 200mV and after 45s 10mv, stable between -1 and +3mv after 1 minute.
Is there a possibility to have a better result ?
For now i added a I/O board with 30s Delay on time.
Don't be worry, i will post soon the gerbers file...need time
APEX P30ZF NEW VERSION STEREO September 2020 - YouTube
 
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Alright, without the THD measurement..no tools ready for that.
The only thing i am concerned about is the DC offset.
At the power on, the offset is around 3V going down very fast. After 20s we have around 200mV and after 45s 10mv, stable between -1 and +3mv after 1 minute.
Is there a possibility to have a better result ?
For now i added a I/O board with 30s Delay on time.
Don't be worry, i will post soon the gerbers file...need time
APEX P30ZF NEW VERSION STEREO September 2020 - YouTube
Sorry, i just saw a typo..there is 2v not 3v at the power on.
 
Mile, is there any way to adjust the DC offset at the power on. I would like to know, in case i have to adapt the board for an eventual modification, before posting the Gerbers file.
Thanks

Could you please describe what happens at power on and how long it happens?

As far I know it is to work togheter with A40 power amplifier and I am interested in both for long time.

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Watch the videos, i beleive that is the best to figure out.
At the power on, with the original design, the offset is around 2V going down very fast. After 20s we have around 200mV and after 45s 10mV, stable between -1 and 3mv after 1 minute.
Apex P30zf Original Design - YouTube

I have add a 47k resistor at the right channel output parallel with the 1mOhm resistor (result 45k), the left channel is unchanged. that is that is much better.
Now at power on we have 1V and after 8s 0mV, stable.
Apex P30ZF Version adapted with 47k resistor add to the Output - YouTube

With 1khz and 150mV input signal
P30ZF Version adapted with 47k resistor- Test with 1kz - 150mV input - YouTube
 

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It looks like a power on/start up stabilization issue.

I suppose it can be solved with a power on delay relay.

If I understand well you are changing the load output resistor to optimise this issue.

If I remember well, this project is based in Marantz PM8005 and PM11 and the projectist changed the circuit with his own ideas. Maybe it is interesting to have a look in the original schematics.
Regards
 
Watch the videos, i beleive that is the best to figure out.
At the power on, with the original design, the offset is around 2V going down very fast. After 20s we have around 200mV and after 45s 10mV, stable between -1 and 3mv after 1 minute.
Apex P30zf Original Design - YouTube

I have add a 47k resistor at the right channel output parallel with the 1mOhm resistor (result 45k), the left channel is unchanged. that is that is much better.
Now at power on we have 1V and after 8s 0mV, stable.
Apex P30ZF Version adapted with 47k resistor add to the Output - YouTube

With 1khz and 150mV input signal
P30ZF Version adapted with 47k resistor- Test with 1kz - 150mV input - YouTube

You must test preamp with amp connect to output, amp input impedance load preamp with 22k... P30ZF DC offset is very good for circuit without global negative feedback.
Regards
 
It looks like a power on/start up stabilization issue.

I suppose it can be solved with a power on delay relay.

If I understand well you are changing the load output resistor to optimise this issue.

If I remember well, this project is based in Marantz PM8005 and PM11 and the projectist changed the circuit with his own ideas. Maybe it is interesting to have a look in the original schematics.
Regards

P30ZF is not based in any Marantz schematic. P30ZF is preamp schematic without global negative feedback.
Regards