Clon C-3850

For all who wondered if the opamp could be left out for certain applications?
I removed the opamps of my cheap Chinese R2R DAC and also the one on this board to drive the discreete part directly of the resistor ladder and it works like a charm.
After fiddling with all sorts of DAC chips and output stages this is exactly the sound I was looking for. Natural organic with clearly defined imaging and something I did not expect, almost scary dynamics via my Sennheiser HD540 headphones. Bass precision and slam are the best I have heard so far.
Some have reported that on low impedance amps the sound quality takes a hit with the Accuphase clone.
If that's the case I highly recommend to put a tube pre behind it.
I had opened a thread with my test setup but there is very little response.
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Hello again, after a long time...too many projects...
My very little voltage regulater board had arrived a few days ago from China. The voltage regulators are not isolated to the heatsink and there is no thermal paste. Done two changes, isolated and used a bit thermal paste for better cooling.
Took out the LM7815/7615, big capacitors and the rectifier and made little new connections on the mofi board.
I bulit a mistake in by soldering the new connections. Ground and - were shorted...stupid..searched for half an hour to find this connection. 🙄

I am using a OPA1612 now (like it very much). I had to solder on a small pcb adapter.
With the OPA 1612 i get a wonderful (heavy, dark) bass, better than every Opa i used before. I like the OPA1612 more than LM49720/LM462.

The best news is..the white noise, i had before on my speakers, is gone now. Deadly silence.😀

Perhaps one of the original voltage regulators was a bit faulty. I got different rail voltages, not much, 14,97 volts to 15,02 volts. That could not be the reason.

No matter now it sounds very good. The C3850 can easyliy drive a headphone, like my DT990, with 250 Ohms.

Happy now with this little preamp...🙂

Greets
Peter
 

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Hello again, after a long time...too many projects...
My very little voltage regulater board had arrived a few days ago from China. The voltage regulators are not isolated to the heatsink and there is no thermal paste. Done two changes, isolated and used a bit thermal paste for better cooling.
Took out the LM7815/7615, big capacitors and the rectifier and made little new connections on the mofi board.
I bulit a mistake in by soldering the new connections. Ground and - were shorted...stupid..searched for half an hour to find this connection. 🙄

I am using a OPA1612 now (like it very much). I had to solder on a small pcb adapter.
With the OPA 1612 i get a wonderful (heavy, dark) bass, better than every Opa i used before. I like the OPA1612 more than LM49720/LM462.

The best news is..the white noise, i had before on my speakers, is gone now. Deadly silence.😀

Perhaps one of the original voltage regulators was a bit faulty. I got different rail voltages, not much, 14,97 volts to 15,02 volts. That could not be the reason.

No matter now it sounds very good. The C3850 can easyliy drive a headphone, like my DT990, with 250 Ohms.

Happy now with this little preamp...🙂

Greets
Peter
Looks very good Peter.
As good as those 1612/1656 are (been through many) at the end there is no getting around discreete opamps. Even the cheap Chinese ones exhibit more dynamics, better clarity, and 3D soundstage.
Best in order are: Sparkos SS2590 by a margin, Burson V7V and close behind the Chinese SX52B.

Greetings Klaus
 
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Hi..
today evening i will take the C3850 clone with me to a regular table. A well known one has ordered a few (!) empty pcb's. I know he owns different opa's, much expensive opa's. I hope he shares his experiances...(but it can take a lot of time he finishes his project) 🙂

I have tried different Opa as Opa 1642, AD8599, Opa 627, LM4562, LME49990 (double), does not work correct. In the moment the Opa 1612 was the best i had in stock.

Greetings
Peter