Exploring Purifi Woofer Speaker Builds

They also have the Satori MW13TX on sale; also for about $100 off. That is tempting the heck out of me as a mid between my 6.5Xs and T25Bs. I don't suppose anyone has been able to compare the midrange of the Satori TX series and the Purifis. If anyone has, I'd love any impressions.
I have exact that MW13TX and 6.5x.... I'll return with my findings.
Is your T25B 'naked' or with a WG?
 
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I run them in pair as woofers in ~40-400 and I can tell you those drivers are amazing. The bass is incredible and lowest notes do not mask what is happening in the super range.
Closed, br, passive drivers? How many liters?
Because I tried the same in both 30 and 60 liters closed, and found them less 'punchy' than a pair of sb23nrx. I can only think that it is lack of surface area.... Or else I don't understand my findings :unsure:
 
Would you accurately state make and model of the drivers you own and measures of cabinet you find suitable for these?


It does not matter how large a container is, it matters the quality of stuff it's filled with! It can be anything. ;)
I didnt understand what you are trying to say making fun of me or what.... I have not made cabinet cause need input what info i have is Jospeh crow 2 way purifi and on Purifi site speaker plan
 
@tigeranand if you have MiniDSP I think you should try setting up the filters yourself. I know that you don't have the skills now, but if you can read a frequency response chart, then setting up a crossover (at least doing the very basics) should not be too hard for you. There are plenty of tutorials out there. Here's an example of one, but there are many others on Youtube:
I don't have a MiniDSP or any files to share, but I think if you have invested enough $$ to have some Purifi drivers on hand, then investing a little time to set them up properly should be doable.
Someone may have files suitable for those drivers, but a crossover depends on the drivers, the size of the enclosure, as well as the size and shape of the baffle... so they tend to be unique. Changing any one of those requires a new crossover. So you are probably going to need to learn this for the parts you currently have.
Take heart, making a crossover in DSP is (IMO) way easier than building a passive one...!
Thank you for the reply I know what you say since I am not able to do as I mentioned clearly thats why have come to this forum. thanks anyway lets see ifthere is 1 chap here who can share his build. 2 days still no one sent or positive reply. What can I say of this community
 
I have exact that MW13TX and 6.5x.... I'll return with my findings.
Is your T25B 'naked' or with a WG?
That would be great. I'm primarily interested in subjective reactions (I've got measured data from Hifi Compass). I'd prefer no waveguide. BTW, the alternative to using the MW13TX, currently, is the PTT5.25 or, perhaps, the M74A (I can't afford the M74B).
 
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I bought plan from Jospeh crowe but he doesnt have minidsp file.
I assume the plans are for the drivers you currently have. If you can share the specifications of the crossover in those plans (frequencies, filter types) someone can probably plug those into the miniDSP software for you. Unfortunately I don't have any MiniDSP stuff so I can't personally help with this.
 
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Here is an animation of Comsol simulations of a 5.25" driver with our strange surround and a std. half roll. The cone is reproducing a 1/4Hz sinusoidal motion with amplitude of 11mm. The graph shows the relative modulation of the total radiating surface area (aka Sd(x)). For example, 10% deviation causes a 10% change of the sound pressure (Being proportional to Sd) which manifest itself in 10% amplitude modulation of any higher frequency signal superimposed. In other words 10% IMD. The new surround keeps that modulation at a fraction of a percent.

Cheers,

Lars @ Purifi
 

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Here is an animation of Comsol simulations of a 5.25" driver with our strange surround and a std. half roll. The cone is reproducing a 1/4Hz sinusoidal motion with amplitude of 11mm. The graph shows the relative modulation of the total radiating surface area (aka Sd(x)). For example, 10% deviation causes a 10% change of the sound pressure (Being proportional to Sd) which manifest itself in 10% amplitude modulation of any higher frequency signal superimposed. In other words 10% IMD. The new surround keeps that modulation at a fraction of a percent.

Cheers,

Lars @ Purifi
So... as a midrange driver, where the p-p is maybe 1/10mm ( 3 way). It almost vanishes? But as a woofer/midrange combined (2 way) - it's a big deal?
 
Yea, @digitalthor, that's the premise. It's what gives it so much value in broad operating ranges. That way it can operate far lower than previously feasible at high SPL while still producing higher notes at no variation. Simplifies your directivity and crossover a lot. Just consider the expense of some three-way nets compared to the increased price of a purifi woofer. Using a Purifi woofer as two of the ways in a three way makes less value sense, but it's still quite good in theory. They are tonally similar and hold similar properties. Something like a TMWW would still greatly benefit from the low distortion at all ends of the spectrum. The proposition of value always looms large, however, and the surround does not appear to add much value in the mid as you suggest.
 
There is a report on The Loudspeaker Project Pad page on Facebook by Rasmus Munk Larsen who visited the Purifi factory recently. Of interest to this group is a prototype using the 8” and an AMT in a waveguide. Rasmus really liked these. Can @lrisbo give any more detail or confirm if they will be available as a plan/kit etc.

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There is a report on The Loudspeaker Project Pad page on Facebook by Rasmus Munk Larsen who visited the Purifi factory recently. Of interest to this group is a prototype using the 8” and an AMT in a waveguide. Rasmus really liked these. Can @lrisbo give any more detail or confirm if they will be available as a plan/kit etc.
That looks very interesting...
 
It's a little weird to see such a massive baffle and not a 12-15" hogging it. Why they didn't make a PR baffles me a little.
With that much excursion capabilities and the given T/S-parameters, that cabinet size and shape seems to be well suited to fully exploit the driver and match it to the wave-guided tweeter.
PR is always a compromise IMHO, to realize small enclosures.