Revisiting some "old" ideas from 1970's - IPS, OPS

Hi Chris,

I historically use NI Multisim - got lots of developments, many live-tested "building blocks", etc. From time to time live prototypes require some fine-tuning, however my simulations work rather close to reality - that's why in some cases I take the liberty to publish new circuits before they are live-tested - Jeff Wilhelm, Thimios or Terry can handle that fine-tuning nicely. My lab is "disassembled" for some time, however I plan to re-build it in mid-June - then I will publish all the measurements and test results, as I did before.
Right now I rely on DIY mates for that and very much appreciate their help :cheers:

Cheers,
Valery
 
Hi Chris,

I historically use NI Multisim - got lots of developments, many live-tested "building blocks", etc. From time to time live prototypes require some fine-tuning, however my simulations work rather close to reality - that's why in some cases I take the liberty to publish new circuits before they are live-tested - Jeff Wilhelm, Thimios or Terry can handle that fine-tuning nicely. My lab is "disassembled" for some time, however I plan to re-build it in mid-June - then I will publish all the measurements and test results, as I did before.
Right now I rely on DIY mates for that and very much appreciate their help :cheers:

Cheers,
Valery
Thank you Valery and Jeff,Thank you all who trust me.🙂
I must prepare my <<test bed>>:cheers:
 
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Some tryout on Valery Sauberkeit line. I try to do it the more versatil i could for OPS as you can use either 1 pair Sanken MT200, nor 1 ou 2 pairs MJL (3281/1302 or 4381/4302). Both OPS and IPS have same size : 100x76mm, same as Lichstark-IPS and VHex-OPS

Marc
 

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Hello,
can you explain this configuration more precise:
Those transistors, together with D3, D4, D7 diodes, form a high-precision cascoded current mirror with gain, playing a role of one half of the current-driven VAS.

I recognized that Q1 and Q5 are forming a difference amplifier. But wich transistors are forming the current mirror and the cascode. So far I know a current mirror consits of to transistors with Basis Emitter in parallel and a cascode are two transistors one above the other with basis of the top transistor on ground.
 
Hello,
can you explain this configuration more precise:


I recognized that Q1 and Q5 are forming a difference amplifier. But wich transistors are forming the current mirror and the cascode. So far I know a current mirror consits of to transistors with Basis Emitter in parallel and a cascode are two transistors one above the other with basis of the top transistor on ground.

You mentioned the simplest implementations of the current mirror and the cascode.

OK - I have tried to illustrate the evolution of the current mirror in this design.

A few hints for better understanding:
- different values of the resistors in the mirror -> mirror with gain;
- transistor with the base and collector shorted can be replaced with a diode in certain conditions;
- my implementation of Hawksford cascode improves precision (the base of the cascode not necessarily has to be connected to ground, although it's still a common base circuit);
- D4 in the final schematic is level shifter; all the other diodes are parts of the Wilson mirror.

Cheers,
Valery
 

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You mentioned the simplest implementations of the current mirror and the cascode.

OK - I have tried to illustrate the evolution of the current mirror in this design.

A few hints for better understanding:
- different values of the resistors in the mirror -> mirror with gain;
- transistor with the base and collector shorted can be replaced with a diode in certain conditions;
- my implementation of Hawksford cascode improves precision (the base of the cascode not necessarily has to be connected to ground, although it's still a common base circuit);
- D4 in the final schematic is level shifter; all the other diodes are parts of the Wilson mirror.

Cheers,
Valery

Yes Valery and it can also be proved in performance in LTSpice simulator.

Really great work. Simple and Performe Great!
 
Lichtstark-X live testing - initial observations

Marc and all,

With reference to post#2039 IPS board schematic:
Lichtstark-X layouts designed by Marc

Based on live tests, performed by Jeff, with +/-48V rails, for having 6.9mA VAS idle current, R12 and R13 have to be 13K each.
Adjusting those values, you can adjust the VAS current - slightly higher values will result in lower VAS current and vice versa.
You can test IPS board standalone, connecting PD+ and ND- with 2 x 100R resistors in series, connecting NFB to their middle point and using it as output.
Check the VAS idle current by measuring the voltage drop over those resistors.

Jeff is assembling the OPS section of the amplifier, so expect some real test results pretty soon 😉

Cheers,
Valery
 
You mentioned the simplest implementations of the current mirror and the cascode.

OK - I have tried to illustrate the evolution of the current mirror in this design.

A few hints for better understanding:
- different values of the resistors in the mirror -> mirror with gain;
- transistor with the base and collector shorted can be replaced with a diode in certain conditions;
- my implementation of Hawksford cascode improves precision (the base of the cascode not necessarily has to be connected to ground, although it's still a common base circuit);
- D4 in the final schematic is level shifter; all the other diodes are parts of the Wilson mirror.

Cheers,
Valery

Hi Valery,

thank you for the explainations with graphics - it will help me to understand the schematic 😉.