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Frank's Ultimate Tube Preamp

It's OK the attached corrected 1st schematic?
 

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Frank for President!

Hi all,

I have been trying to convince Frank that he needs to do an ultimate amplifier and start a thread, so far no luck but if the rest of you chime in me may be able to convince him...........................

Jam
 

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Hi,

I don't really remember but it's easily calculated, I guesstimate not much more than 15 mA per channel just by looking at the values.
All my designs are dual mono to the extreme and usually regulated using valved series regulators. Even as far as having a per stage regulator.

The aim of all these designs is to reproduce the musical experience so you can enjoy it and stop wondering about the system.

Cheers, 🙂
 
Frank, do you have a power supply schematic for the 6sn7 preamp? I was going to use the one previously posted in this thread for the 12bh7 line stage but I see the output voltage is very different (305vs250) and was wondering what changes I'd have to make to adapt the supply.
Also, I have only one el86, but many el84 tubes, is this a possible substitution?

Thanks in advance.
 
Thank you so much frank, I will see if I can find some ecl86 tubes in my stash, would I be able to replace this tube with say an el84 and a 6c4? I plan on maybe running two of these setups as true mono power supplies like you advised for the other linestage. Also, how much current will this circuit deliver? I'm considering adapting it into my current el84 power amp that is currently on a standard pie filter unregulated supply.
Maybe a more suitable question would be: do you have a tube regulated power supply schematic that might be able to deliver 50-100ma @ 250-350v range?
The design of these supplies is still far above my skill level, thank you in advance for your help.
 
Hi,

It is an ECL85/6GV8 actually, not an ECL86

The former is still around and not much sought after.

Maybe a more suitable question would be: do you have a tube regulated power supply schematic that might be able to deliver 50-100ma @ 250-350v range?

Unfortunately I don't.

Cheers, 😉
 
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Well, yes And no Frank. Is there something absolutely necessary about the el86 or ecl85 that differs from the el84 to a degree that the schematic couldn't be amended to compensate? I can walk to guitar center and buy el84, while finding those other tubes requires online ordering and there's is very little new production tubes to pick from.
I just think that ultimately using more readily obtainable tubes would be a major improvement to the design.
 
I realize that this might only be my wish, as of such I will try to understand and reverse engineer your schematic on my own. If I manage to simulate something passable using the el84 I will post it here for you to review. Thanks again for your help Frank.
 
Hi,

Well yes, there are various reasons why one would use these types of valves but sure enough one could make a series reg with an EL84/6BQ5 and a ECC83 as an error amp as well.
But, you'd still want the voltage reference as well. No idea if electric guitar shops carry these.
Unless of course you're going to replace it with a stack of zener diodes that is.

Cheers, 😉
 
Hi,

Well yes, there are various reasons why one would use these types of valves but sure enough one could make a series reg with an EL84/6BQ5 and a ECC83 as an error amp as well.
But, you'd still want the voltage reference as well. No idea if electric guitar shops carry these.
Unless of course you're going to replace it with a stack of zener diodes that is.

Cheers, 😉

Zzzzzzzeners are not for me, also I luckily have many 5651 and 0a2 tubes at my disposal. Those seem to be easy to find as many devices used them. Local electronics shops here in town have old tube surplus. Anything audio output related has been taken long ago, but voltage regulators are still a dime a dozen..