@jan.didden
You run the risk of losing some identity and positioning of instruments.
For instance, a bass fiddle on the right or a tuba, its now blurred by its upper tones coming from the right, and lower tones in the center.
You run the risk of losing some identity and positioning of instruments.
For instance, a bass fiddle on the right or a tuba, its now blurred by its upper tones coming from the right, and lower tones in the center.
Yes, this is really true. Here's my recent experience
I had one system with a stereo active crossover that a mono subwoofer output driving two subs positioned next to the main speakers
It sounded good but when I added another crossover to get stereo subs, it really came alive. Even the low mids and vocals had more detail.
I think there are a lot more directional cues down there than we think, and I no longer agree with the notion that "bass is omnidirectional".
Yes, it's less directional, and that's just physics, but it's not 100% omni, so you will loose something.
The best player I had/have was Zune. It was quick to find things, logical and never tried to reorganize my music according to some stupid algorithm. But it sits in a drawer somewhere because it was limited to 30G, the software is not supported anymore, and it used a nasty big proprietary connector. Today my ~45G primary music library lives in many places including my computers, phone and the car. These laptop speakers are awful, but they are convenient. I have some nice Bluetooth headphones, but they are extra baggage, and I don't like to wear anything wireless on my body. On computers, I mostly send folders to VLC player. Unfortunately, the Android version of VLC player is always busy going through my files, so I usually use foobar2000. The car stereo has a dreadful flat directory, and you can spend 5 minutes scrolling through albums to get to the one you want. Like GPS, your phone does a better job over Bluetooth. I'm quite aware that MP3 and Bluetooth are not audiophile quality, but usually they are good enough. The convenience and lack of baggage is paramount. I'm a big fan of 2.1 channel speakers, because there is no place in a family home for a "stereo system". I spent a lot of time in my youth building and rebuilding my "stereo", because I couldn't afford to buy much. In spite of now being retired, I am not motivated to build anything today, even though I now have both the knowledge and the money to do so. Ultimately, the music industry died and left us with little more than memories. Creative young people are no longer interested in becoming musicians, and today's kids are left with some monotonic noise generated by people with 2-digit IQs.
P.S. Something very important is a tag editor. It allows you to preload your files with information that will give the player a base of organizing. My favorite is MP3tag.
P.S. Something very important is a tag editor. It allows you to preload your files with information that will give the player a base of organizing. My favorite is MP3tag.
You've heard the differences with "stereo bass" obviously!
Why would anyone who's "picky" and serious about their sound want to hear a bass fiddle, or even a bass/baritone singer's "position" along the stereo stage coming from two places?
They might as well listen in mono.
I don't think so. The upper tones are still in stereo at their right position.
The lower tones are non-directional so I lose no directionality by summing them to equal amplitude from both sides.
Being low notes they were not coming from any particular direction anyway.
I want the mono to start at say 120Hz and down, as a start.
Maybe I will find that I need to let it start lower, or can afford to start higher. That's part of the experiment.
Jan
Samsung Galaxy on wi fi streamed to a Dayton Audio Bluetooth receiver https://www.ebay.com/itm/323560558324 Works great. I just talk to the Galaxy. It streams everything I've tried so far, including radio station playlists and archives.
I listen to FM from an old Hitachi tuner. WBKG public radio. Mostly jazz. Ramsey Lewis was the morning DJ until the day he died.
I listen to FM from an old Hitachi tuner. WBKG public radio. Mostly jazz. Ramsey Lewis was the morning DJ until the day he died.
I have found it really hard to get good info about the jriver dsp.
Right now I use a now outdated version of itunes with a 2012 macmini as server and a benchmark dac 2. I would like to switch to jriver and try out the dsp.
Right now I use a now outdated version of itunes with a 2012 macmini as server and a benchmark dac 2. I would like to switch to jriver and try out the dsp.
Some more info. You can process your stereo stream as Mid and Side channels. The Side channels have the stereo info, the Mid channels has the mono info.
Then you can just high pass the Side channel and then the lows are no longer in the Side channels but still in the Mid channels.
What I don't get yet is how you the go back to stereo channels. Or maybe that isn't necessary; only the processing is M/S?
This shows the flow in a couple of ways:
Jan
Then you can just high pass the Side channel and then the lows are no longer in the Side channels but still in the Mid channels.
What I don't get yet is how you the go back to stereo channels. Or maybe that isn't necessary; only the processing is M/S?
This shows the flow in a couple of ways:
Jan
I don't know how you hear, or how your system is set up, but I can surely hear a difference in where the bass is coming from.
As Techtool's post #163 stated the same things.
I have Windows computers and Android phones all over the place. On the good systems I use a high quality USB interface. For software mostly all have aimp player. On Android phone sometimes I use musicolet. Also stream a lot on the Spotify app.
BluOS > network shared iTunes library &/ Spotify > BlueSound Node > Neurochrome Modulus 286 > DIY MTM+CSS SDX7 powered sub.
Not the sexiest of GUIs - at least out of the box- but it does all I need quite well enough that drilling into special settings, etc is not a priority.
Not the sexiest of GUIs - at least out of the box- but it does all I need quite well enough that drilling into special settings, etc is not a priority.
Am I the only one here who uses Kodi?
I have a fanless PC running KDE Neon (Ubuntu with a KDE desktop) and a Technics SL-L3 linear tracker. Kodi auto-launches when the system boots. The screen is a NEC P553 signage display. I can't stand so called smart TVs and the panel in this NEC is just gorgeous.
The music is on my file server, Kodi connects to it via an SMB share. It has no problems with my 1TB music collection, plays gapless, works with a USB remote and keyboard. When I pop in a CD it will automatically encode the disc to FLAC and add it to my collection. The Android remote control app is excellent. Kodi plays my local files, all the streaming services for audio and video and when I play music the TV turns off. If I want to listen to music I can just get by using either the web interface or the android app without turning on the screen.
DSP is done with EasyEffects. It has more filters and options then I'll ever need. I use the convolver for my DRC-FIR filters, crossfeed for headphone listening and a dynamic range limiter for watching movies at night.
The colours on this picture from my phone are off by so much that it's not even funny 😳
I still need to install the wall mounts for the screen and for my speakers. When that's done I'll make a new DRC filter.
The Technics SL-L3 has a P33 cart with a Jico SAS installed. "Preamp" is a simple NE5532 gain stage with 2.2MOhm input impedance connected to an ASUS Xonar DX. RIAA EQ, phono crosstalk cancelling and compensation for the missing 47k input resistor are done with IIR filters applied by ffmpeg. On particularly bad records I have ffmpeg remove the clicks in realtime.
Most of the gear was bought second hand. The most expensive item in my setup is the Jico stylus.
The best feature of all is that my wife and daughter can operate this system without support from me.
I have a fanless PC running KDE Neon (Ubuntu with a KDE desktop) and a Technics SL-L3 linear tracker. Kodi auto-launches when the system boots. The screen is a NEC P553 signage display. I can't stand so called smart TVs and the panel in this NEC is just gorgeous.
The music is on my file server, Kodi connects to it via an SMB share. It has no problems with my 1TB music collection, plays gapless, works with a USB remote and keyboard. When I pop in a CD it will automatically encode the disc to FLAC and add it to my collection. The Android remote control app is excellent. Kodi plays my local files, all the streaming services for audio and video and when I play music the TV turns off. If I want to listen to music I can just get by using either the web interface or the android app without turning on the screen.
DSP is done with EasyEffects. It has more filters and options then I'll ever need. I use the convolver for my DRC-FIR filters, crossfeed for headphone listening and a dynamic range limiter for watching movies at night.
The colours on this picture from my phone are off by so much that it's not even funny 😳
I still need to install the wall mounts for the screen and for my speakers. When that's done I'll make a new DRC filter.
The Technics SL-L3 has a P33 cart with a Jico SAS installed. "Preamp" is a simple NE5532 gain stage with 2.2MOhm input impedance connected to an ASUS Xonar DX. RIAA EQ, phono crosstalk cancelling and compensation for the missing 47k input resistor are done with IIR filters applied by ffmpeg. On particularly bad records I have ffmpeg remove the clicks in realtime.
Most of the gear was bought second hand. The most expensive item in my setup is the Jico stylus.
The best feature of all is that my wife and daughter can operate this system without support from me.
I use an Asus Tinkerboard/AK4495 DAC running Volumio in the system with speakers. Another one is a micro PC/WM8740 DAC with Volumio for a headphone setup.
Work setup is a windows tablet, WM8741 DAC, headphone amp.
Living room, garage, patio are using $2 usb 5.0 boards, just a phone as a source. Was really surprised at how good those sound, makes me question my sanity for hassling with the other ones!
Work setup is a windows tablet, WM8741 DAC, headphone amp.
Living room, garage, patio are using $2 usb 5.0 boards, just a phone as a source. Was really surprised at how good those sound, makes me question my sanity for hassling with the other ones!
