Even though I can understand weed is great for musicians (creative ideas) I really can't play guitar while I'm stoned. Maybe I'm thinking that it's sounding good but after listening to the recording....oh my, oh my. So I admire musicians that can play and play very good no matter what.
The first time I "got" music was on several large hits of premium LSD and a mid 90's Phish show. I was obviously indulging in large amounts of cannabis smoke too. I was probably 15 and just starting to learn music. Those guys, the way they communicated together with their instruments just blew my mind. I found that after several songs I started being able to "see" the music before it was played........it was like a light bulb went off in my head......they were not making this music up.......they were channeling it from another dimension. After this experience I knew they were not just lucky, they put a lot of time in to learn musics and be able to make it second nature, be able to play anything they heard in their heads. Then they could just tune out....like a trance......and let the music just take over and go where it wants to go.
Music is mind altering, so it just goes perfect with mind altering chemicals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGAnm4CoLQ
Music is mind altering, so it just goes perfect with mind altering chemicals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGAnm4CoLQ
Does anybody else relate to becoming aware of the "shell" of perception and being able to hear the musicians playing on that sphere seemingly trying to go beyond it, to pierce it or "transcend" it? It is one of the most enjoyable aspects of listening in an altered state for me. More on topic is listening to a "boom box" while on LSD and sensing my brain filling in the deficiencies in the sound, providing a very high end experience. Very enjoyable, but not helpful in the evaluation process. But I wasn't interested in evaluation during that span of time.😀 By the way, I'm an old fart now, this was years ago. The memories are still vibrant, however.
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Interesting point. The mind fills in the "gaps" all the time but one is typically not aware of it - getting high obviously enhances that process, and can make one aware that the process is happening.
The counter to that is that the aim of a working audio system should be to not require "the filling in of the gaps" - the goal is to allow the brain to be as lazy as hell, 🙂, and just soak up the sound, without "analysing" it on the fly - all the information is there for the sound to be "understandable", without any extra brain processing.
A very nice benefit is that one can listen the very first time to a completely unknown album of music, of a style that you would normally "hate" - and you "get" it, immediately! That is, you appreciate where the music is going, and why the musicians are bothering playing it, etc, etc ..
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I hadn't really put that together. A truly high end listening experiences can lead to a state where the brain doesn't have to work to fill in any missing information, >and< that any kind of music is enjoyable in that situation. One caveat is listening for flaws in the reproduction. This puts stress and cognition into the mix, creating a state that is not conducive to receptivity. Wow, totally off topic, but that is the fly in the ointment of A/B testing. Time for y'all to light a big doobie and get this discussion back on track.😀
And I thought I had the only one. I got it used from the original builder, tinkered with it off and on for a few years and sold it. I think that the third owner after me finally found the cold solder joint in the power supply.
I had an original white face Odyssey, two Mini Korgs from when Korg was the model name from the Univox brand (1973?), an ARP String Ensemble (rebranded Solina), and a few home made synths. I don't have any of them now, but am building synth stuff again.
Does daily consumption of 1 to 3 joints a day for 20 years count as prolonged???? Weed certainly helped me cope with ADHD far better than the stupid stimulants that the doctors gave me. Two Ritalin and a big fattie....then turn the Teac on. Play that back the next day and it's ALL noise!
1969, Jethro Tull, Pacific Gas & Electric Co, a dozen local bands and a pitcher of electric orange juice on the University of Miami's soccer field....10000 stoners and some good tunes.
Where I live, No(r)Way .. a journalist recomended a beer before going to the movies. It made a lot of fuzz .. You cant even buy beer after 8 .. its illegal.
A beer at the movies? $12-14 ..
As a result, weed and and other substances are getting more and more popular.
How about those things that grows out in the woods .. kinda like the ones you put on pizzas, just smaller and more pointy..Are they legal? How´s that for music? Does it make for a more magic listening experience?
Personal favorites ... Leftfield - Leftism, Jethro Tull, Røyksopp - Junior, Bocelli and some of the GUs.. like Sharam.
A beer at the movies? $12-14 ..
As a result, weed and and other substances are getting more and more popular.
How about those things that grows out in the woods .. kinda like the ones you put on pizzas, just smaller and more pointy..Are they legal? How´s that for music? Does it make for a more magic listening experience?
Personal favorites ... Leftfield - Leftism, Jethro Tull, Røyksopp - Junior, Bocelli and some of the GUs.. like Sharam.
Yeah, I think this is mostly a "Jeff Spicoli stereotype." If you're no Carl Sagan, it's probably not because of the weed.
+1
Best feeling ever walking in to the shed in the evening, mood lights on, crank up the latest boombox project and enjoy the fruits of one's labour.
😀
It's also the time of day during a project I solve most of the problems.
[Cue a ray of light coming from the sky with angles holding a reverbed, flanged note
]Where I live, No(r)Way .. a journalist recomended a beer before going to the movies. It made a lot of fuzz .. You cant even buy beer after 8 .. its illegal.
A beer at the movies? $12-14 ..
As a result, weed and and other substances are getting more and more popular.
How about those things that grows out in the woods .. kinda like the ones you put on pizzas, just smaller and more pointy..Are they legal? How´s that for music? Does it make for a more magic listening experience?
Personal favorites ... Leftfield - Leftism, Jethro Tull, Røyksopp - Junior, Bocelli and some of the GUs.. like Sharam.
Mushrooms mate.
This is all hypothetical, and for entertainment purposes only. Not to be taken seriously.....
The mushrooms would most likely enhance the listening. Just found non-stop laughter with the other people who consumed them at the same time. The hallucinogenics above the mushroom level are too much for me. Not able to enjoy, it's always been too strong.
I agree. Anything above psilocybin is unpleasantly real and 'hard', but mushrooms were very gentle and the effects were more sensory than psychological. Music sounded amazing with colour synaesthesia.
Can't believe so many people on this forum are stoners! 😛
Favourite strains? Northern Lights x Sweet Tooth!
Favourite strains? Northern Lights x Sweet Tooth!
It goes hand in hand with music and creativity.
...man...
😛
FWIW, I hardly refer to myself as a "stoner" these days.
Once a week, maybe twice.
If I've got some.
Can go months and months without, no worries.
I reallly need to fix mine up & sell it. I'm not doing anything with it; someone should be putting it to good use. Besides, people pay stupid money for that stuff these days.
As a young keyboard tech, the first synth I ever repaired was a white face Odyssey! I remember it well - had a bad 1458 in the LFO circuit.
Oh, man - that saccharine-sweet string sound can drop-kick me right back to the seventies every time. 'Scuse me while I go cue up Edgar Winter's Jasmine Nightdreams, maybe chase that with Todd Rundgren's Initiation... Dammit, why isn't weed legal in this state?! 😛
-- Jim
Exactly.
I would never say the following anywhere else but here, and it's still a bit ridiculous, but: I'm in a really good place with my stereo these days. (I know you guys understand what I'm talking about. 😛) After the latest major overhaul, it's at a point where the speakers don't really sound like speakers anymore - the music is just sort of there in the room. I kept waiting to discover a certain track that sounds grossly out of whack, as you describe above, but it just ain't happening; so I find myself worrying about it less and less and just digging the music. And I don't mean to say it's perfect - the subs could be blended a little better, and the real center channel still doesn't sound quite as smooth as the phantom one, for a couple of examples - but we're talking one note in a bass line every now and then, and lead vocals that are occasionally just real nice instead of startling. I will get around to these eventually, but I also feel like just leaving well enough alone for the time being. But I definitely understand now what all the fuss is about regarding the high-end listening experience.
Hee! But I got no connections anymore - nobody to call! 🙁
-- Jim
Nobody here is a stoner, we are all just hypothesising except those who live in places where it is legal. ;-)
A gentle smoke does wonders when you are mixing a song in the studio.
Suddenly it doesn't matter anymore when you hear a short passage for the umpteenth time to get something right while when completely sober one would have given up long ago and declared it 'good enough'.
Speed is completely unusable in those circumstances as would be alcohol.
Here is a cautionary tale regarding continued overuse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szkzLQFIz4I
There is a whole world of different music out there for the altered. Try some Gong Band (the album "You") or Steve Hillage "Fish Rising" or "Green". Patrick Moraz "I" is intense. 'Shrooms for those that are so inclined should hypothetically do the trick nicely. Kate Bush "The Dreaming". If I were to adventure now, I'd try some ancient music, Gothic Voices, Ensemble Alcatraz, Ensemble P.A.N.
Dang, dude! You got 2 of my Desert Island records in one post! ("I" and The Dreaming) Both are jaw-droppers even without chemicals, but perfect for experiencing on another level as well. To that I'll add the way-underrated Side 2 of Todd Rundgren's "Initiation" - 30 minutes of WTF called A Treatise on Cosmic Fire. Wonderful stuff. (Side 1 is great too, if a bit more conventional.)
-- Jim
I'll check out Initiation, anybody with those two as desert island albums has to be on the same wavelength. Check out Steve Hillage, "Fish Rising".
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