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Oh you're Scottish! I understand the parallelism. Silly me, I didn't notice. Sorry if I have caused any offense.
Oh you're Scottish! I understand the parallelism. Silly me, I didn't notice. Sorry if I have caused any offense.
The English tried to kill off the welsh language unsuccessfully for nay on 700 years.
Language is an essential part of a culture. As such I think Basque is as valuable as any other language, be it french, portuguese, spanish or german.
Language is an essential part of a culture. As such I think Basque is as valuable as any other language, be it french, portuguese, spanish or german.
Things have gone global Charles. I can understand the romantic side though.
EDit. I believe thinking in Basque creates very rough thinking. Very abrupt ideas. 🙂
EDit. I believe thinking in Basque creates very rough thinking. Very abrupt ideas. 🙂
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I've come around to thinking that you can apply the process of natural selection to pretty much all human & animal behaviour. The tricky thing is to find some element of our behaviour that doesn't abide by those rules. The Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins is quite a read..... Meme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yowsuh! Been listening to these guys since back in the day. Interesting tunes for the most part, and monster chops all around. "Kansas on Benzedrine" as a friend used to describe them.
-- Jim
Nothing romantic about it.
Killing off languages and cultures has the same effect as diminishing the gene pool in biology. We need the variety to thrive long term as a species.
We need variety in language to thrive? I was thinking the contrary. Basically, the more you understand the better. Understand each other I mean.
Who did?
This argument implies that evolution ( of the natural selection variety ) is the same thing as "social progress"
Whereas social progress or cultural development occurs over a relatively short time period, often within the space of a century or less. On the other hand Darwinian evolution takes place over a much longer timescale ( several orders of magnitude longer ) as the result of certain genetic strains failing to be passed on. In that Sense I agree with you in the case of the Panda, though my daughter would shoot me if she heard me saying this!
Cultural trends including languages have nothing to do with genetic selection, unless you happen to share the views of Mr Hitler, but rather are the result of collective human behaviors again as far as I know not determined by genetics.
I Agree we should probably go back to talking about weed ( and music, of course ), But as The man said if you can't go off topic on a weed thread, then where can you! 🙂
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Not sure about language and selection : imagine you are in the desert and you are not able to ask in arameic to a local "I need water for me & my panada here !"... you will not be able to adapt, nore the mutations to happen (seing the darwinism things)
Language is a tool usefull to comunicate, this is not like if a little grup and its own language is proof with the exterior world... but some progress happen when people are able to understand each others. this is why according to me staying on a bad tool is worst than choosing a more eficient tool (a more global language which allow unity & progress). If clever enough learn both the old and the actual language !
No need to speak jamaican for weed nore breton to eat pancakes !
Basicly there are books nowadays and languages are more persitent in time than ever !
Looking at the link above is a non return path 😎 , defintly need to learn English !
No offense, my passion for this argument I suspect comes from residual feelings of affection for the one and only person I've known from the Basque country, aside from this point of reference I know very little of their language or culture.
As far as being Scottish goes, in general I don't share the sense of persecution by the British people, in fact i have several good friends in England. Though in the case of the present government I do share some sense of persecution, anyhow I am wondering into forbidden territory again.😱
Disclaimer: My dog (shown in my avatar) is a Great Pyrenees, so can be considered Basque.
In any case... languages come and go. They flourish, they change, they die. If there's a reason to preserve them, people will, even if they're not in any sort of general use (Latin is a good example, as is Aramaic). If there's no good reason to preserve them, people won't.
My other disclaimer is that the first language I spoke was Yiddish, which not long ago was widely spoken and understood. Today, it's an object of study, and its daily use has diminished to a tiny fraction of what it once was. Will it eventually disappear? As a daily language, almost certainly. As a "preserved" language, maybe, maybe not. If some people value it, it will; if not, *shrug*.
Yes, you are. Stay out.
In any case... languages come and go. They flourish, they change, they die. If there's a reason to preserve them, people will, even if they're not in any sort of general use (Latin is a good example, as is Aramaic). If there's no good reason to preserve them, people won't.
My other disclaimer is that the first language I spoke was Yiddish, which not long ago was widely spoken and understood. Today, it's an object of study, and its daily use has diminished to a tiny fraction of what it once was. Will it eventually disappear? As a daily language, almost certainly. As a "preserved" language, maybe, maybe not. If some people value it, it will; if not, *shrug*.
Yes, you are. Stay out.
This is good counsel, however if a culture chooses to cut itself off, resulting in its ultimate demise, then surely it is natural to let this process run its course, to interfere and impose cultural development of language or whatever is to interfere with the process of natural selection if you are using this argument.
I am reminded of "The Prime Directive" from Star trek.
Why so radical, Cassiel may merely be longing back to the days of generalisimo Francisco Franco.
Hee! All the women in that video are really attractive in various ways. I always found that a bit ironic.
-- Jim
No question, it has marked English (schmuck, putz, momzer, shlemiel, noodge, potzer, yenta), but I can't help but notice that it's only pejoratives.
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