Yes, sorry about the intrusive X in faubourg. Spelling R not me.(sounds the same, tho)
If only i could have the same problem only with english speaking
Use to be writted with "x" long time ago in french... same close european origin : french (faux) faux-bourgs, then the faubourgs , english (false?) , german (vor) Vorburg...then Vorstadt, Dutch (voor... voorgeborchte then Voorstad) ...etc, mixed from the old latin from the middle-age? : forsbourcs (= falsus...burgus)
X can be very intrusive in the faubourg of Paris by the way !
All this smart-**** with "R" (smart_*** (without "R" ?) find with google remind me to come back to the weed : what about Spirit... twelve dreams of Dr Sardonicus... some of The Cramps or Umaguma by P-F, The Residents, Tuxedomoon 🙂.... all those remind me the rich hours of intensiv agriculture as well !
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If I listen to Eskimo by The Residents after smoking I tend to turn the heating up.
I might be getting old but these days I prefer stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_s9QFJUTZ4
X is a very confusing letter since different languages use it for very different sounds.
Coming from an german-anglophone background I always struggled with the name of the cyclist Beñat Intxausti.
Probably made worse by the fact that he is basque and the basque language is not related to any other living language.
I might be getting old but these days I prefer stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_s9QFJUTZ4
X is a very confusing letter since different languages use it for very different sounds.
Coming from an german-anglophone background I always struggled with the name of the cyclist Beñat Intxausti.
Probably made worse by the fact that he is basque and the basque language is not related to any other living language.
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If I listen to Eskimo by The Residents after smoking I tend to turn the heating up.
Coming from an german-anglophone background I always struggled with the name of the cyclist Beñat Intxausti.
I'd be inclined (and probably wrong) to pronounce that x as an "ch" like in "chop".
Probably made worse by the fact that this is basque and the basque language is not related to any other living language.
On the face of it, I'd be inclined to agree. However its difficult to see how an ethnic group living in Europe could not have been influenced by other Europeans speaking in a variety of languages, at the very least by their Spanish speaking neighbours. It is true that some truly isolated cultures ( certain tribes in the amazon rain Forrest, for example ) have developed languages completely uninfluenced by any outsiders.
From the limited experience of the Basque language I've encountered, it seems, at least superficially to have some similarities to Gaelic. I'm not an expert on the development of language ( etymology? ) so this may well be utter gucth. 🙂
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Here's one for you, Jim. Others might like it, too.
Here's one for you, Jim. Others might like it, too.
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If the commentator on Eurosport gets it right the 'tx' sounds like a 'dsh' ie a softer version of the 'ch' in chop.
According to wiki Basque is officially categorised as a 'language isolate':
"A language isolate, in the absolute sense, is a natural language with no demonstrable genealogical (or "genetic") relationship with other languages, one that has not been demonstrated to descend from an ancestor common with any other language. Language isolates are in effect language families consisting of a single language. Commonly cited examples include Basque, Korean, Ainu, and Burushaski, though in each case a small minority of linguists claim to have demonstrated a relationship with other languages."
According to wiki Basque is officially categorised as a 'language isolate':
"A language isolate, in the absolute sense, is a natural language with no demonstrable genealogical (or "genetic") relationship with other languages, one that has not been demonstrated to descend from an ancestor common with any other language. Language isolates are in effect language families consisting of a single language. Commonly cited examples include Basque, Korean, Ainu, and Burushaski, though in each case a small minority of linguists claim to have demonstrated a relationship with other languages."
According to wiki Basque is officially categorised as a 'language isolate':
"A language isolate, in the absolute sense, is a natural language with no demonstrable genealogical (or "genetic") relationship with other languages, one that has not been demonstrated to descend from an ancestor common with any other language. Language isolates are in effect language families consisting of a single language. Commonly cited examples include Basque, Korean, Ainu, and Burushaski, though in each case a small minority of linguists claim to have demonstrated a relationship with other languages."
If this is accurate, then I stand corrected!
I can't help thinking at times that when it comes to reliable sources wiki can be a bit questionable, I may see if I can find other evidence to support the view expressed in Wikipedia. It just seems bizarre given the geography that the Basque language falls into this category, but again I am by no means an expert on the development of language, though it is a topic that at least casually I find very interesting.
I realize this is well off topic, though I can't help thinking this would be a great topic to speculate on in an "enhanced" state of mind! 🙂
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I realize this is well off topic, though I can't help thinking this would be a great topic to speculate on in an "enhanced" state of mind! 🙂
This is a thread about weed (and music).
If you can't go a bit off topic in a weed thread where can you? ;-)
However its difficult to see how an ethnic group living in Europe could not have been influenced
Likely Pyrenean ''hillbillies'' by origin, the coastal side will have been pretty isolated in the old days.
The French side e.g. used to be swamp country. A long time ago, the king of France hired Dutch dredgers to turn the Aquitaine into dry land.
(ever met a Euskalian ?)
I've been to Bilbao and basque doesn't sound like any language I've heard.
Usually there are at least some words in most european languages I recognise but with basque I got nothing.
I have heard a story that basque might be related to etruscan, a language that has been dead since the Romans exterminated the Etruscans some 2 500 years ago.
I once went through a historical atlas and it turns out the only two peoples in Europe who have not moved at all in the last 4000 years and still exist were the Friesians and the Basques.
Usually there are at least some words in most european languages I recognise but with basque I got nothing.
I have heard a story that basque might be related to etruscan, a language that has been dead since the Romans exterminated the Etruscans some 2 500 years ago.
I once went through a historical atlas and it turns out the only two peoples in Europe who have not moved at all in the last 4000 years and still exist were the Friesians and the Basques.
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(ever met a Euskalian ?)
Yes and she was a beautiful woman, though she didn't return my affections! 🙁
She did try to teach me some of the Basque language, without much success, though she did succeed in teaching me some Spanish! Yes, she was trilingual ( Basque, Spanish and English ), her paternal Grandmother was a weegy ( Glaswegian ) like me so she wasn't a pure bred Euskalian.
I have lost contact with her some time ago besides I'm married with kids now.
EDIT: weegy is pronounced wee-jay
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I once went through a historical atlas and it turns out the only two peoples in Europe who have not moved at all in the last 4000 years and still exist were the Friesians and the Basques.
That is quite remarkable. I wonder what the figures would be in the opposite direction, that is into The Basque territory, as this could shine some light on the isolated nature of their language.
I'd be inclined to pronounce that x as an "ch" like in "chop".
You got it right, not that anyone cares. Old and useless language, incomprehensible too. They are proud of something old and useless - very European.
Feeling Darwinian today.
Languages suffer the same fate as most species; some flourish, some die. Keeping the basque language alive is analogous to keeping the Panda alive. It goes against nature and that plan will fail.
Languages suffer the same fate as most species; some flourish, some die. Keeping the basque language alive is analogous to keeping the Panda alive. It goes against nature and that plan will fail.
Languages suffer the same fate as most species; some flourish, some die. Keeping the basque language alive is analogous to keeping the Panda alive. It goes against nature and that plan will fail.
At the risk of being chastised for breaking the rules ( no politics ) This thinking is dangerously close to Nazi ideology.
EDIT: After writing that, I then thought perhaps I'm being a bit blatant. However i m not sure that you can necessarily apply the process of natural selection to human cultural phenomenon. I suspect that the language is still relevant to the people who use it, even though its probably of insignificant importance to the rest of the world. To actively seek to prevevent the preservation of such a language is quite unreasonable to my way of thinking.
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You got it right, not that anyone cares. Old and useless language, incomprehensible too. They are proud of something old and useless - very European.
Gregarious word applys ? Trying to escape from the progress by staying together in a simplier & little social structure !
France is like that :some want to speak breton, corse, basque, etc... even not able to speak french correctly, nore english like your servant by wasted time in schools with such local jokes and for want of political courage to reform our School ! At the end you have people like me who speak Basquglish ; hard to be understood both by basques and englisch people 😛
Let's go introduce pandas in french pyrenees (wet enough) and bamboos and... weed ! It will fail, some hassoles shoot the wolves and bears, because at night they prefer to look at the TV entertainment than watching for the sheeps !With weed they will shoot the pandas as well believing it's a wolve !
When I think about it I need more weed and listen to Fun House from the Stooges !
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