johninCR said:Steve,
I didn't mean anything derogatory. They are easily tuned to taste, within certain obvious limits, and I wanted to be able to get mine as far from the wall as possible without absolutely requiring a sub. Against the wall also put mine close to the corners, and since my walls are concrete, placement has maximum effect. Fully lined with damping mine would probably be quite happy at the wall.
Hi John
I wasn't taking offense at anything, just wondering about the differences between British and American rooms really. I remember your pictures showed your speakers on a hard floor near a wall. If as you say you have concrete walls and hard floors then I can see why the speakers might have been a bit better balanced out in the room. 🙂
I wanted mine out in the room for the best imaging and depth of soundstage, so I tuned them that way intentionally.
Ah imaging
Now that's what they are really good at.
My room is too small to have them out in the breeze so I miss out a bit in the
imaging department.
Steve.
Now that's what they are really good at.
My room is too small to have them out in the breeze so I miss out a bit in the
imaging department.
Steve.
Steve Cresswell said:Ah imaging
Now that's what they are really good at.
My room is too small to have them out in the breeze so I miss out a bit in the
imaging department.
Steve.
Yep, you hit on something really good with your tall, narrow, elegantly simple design. I wish I had a room big enough for a pair made with 15" coax's....Imagine those 12' tall spires and the bass they would make.😀 😀
johninCR said:Yep, you hit on something really good with your tall, narrow, elegantly simple design. I wish I had a room big enough for a pair made with 15" coax's....Imagine those 12' tall spires and the bass they would make.😀 😀
If you are gonna go big you might as well go bipole... but they may not be as tall as you guesstimate... height is a function of Fs.
dave
Did someone mention Metronomes with a pair of 15in co-ax units?
No problem at all. Here's one for the P Audio BM15CX38: http://www.speakercity.com/Merchant...C&Product_Code=BM15CX38&Category_Code=PA-COAX (not cheap, but possibly good).
Line 72in
So=65in^2 (I used 6.5in wide x 10in deep)
Sl=360in^2 (I used 20in x 18in)
Zdriver 34in
Vent = 8in diameter, 0.75in long. Line the cabinet, or stuff 0.25lbs ft^3 above the driver. Might need a suprabaffle for mounting the driver to.
No problem at all. Here's one for the P Audio BM15CX38: http://www.speakercity.com/Merchant...C&Product_Code=BM15CX38&Category_Code=PA-COAX (not cheap, but possibly good).
Line 72in
So=65in^2 (I used 6.5in wide x 10in deep)
Sl=360in^2 (I used 20in x 18in)
Zdriver 34in
Vent = 8in diameter, 0.75in long. Line the cabinet, or stuff 0.25lbs ft^3 above the driver. Might need a suprabaffle for mounting the driver to.
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My neighbors would kill me if I had something those. That's why OB is my only option. When my buddy finishes his 2nd hotel at the beach, I'll talk him into letting me build a set of those.

Scottmoose said:So=65in^2 (I used 6.5in wide x 10in deep)
Sl=360in^2 (I used 20in x 18in)
For a bipole, So = 130 in^2, Sl = 720 in^2
using golden ratio 9 * 14.5 at the top 21.25 x 34 at the bottom...
dave
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Well, never let it be said Dave & I don't do 'big' speakers... 😀
Steve -I apologise. You got to all that effort to come up with an elegent, WAF friendly speaker, and then we go & create a monster... 😉
Maybe you haven't created a monster Scott/Dave.
Can you just imagine a pair of these in piano gloss black, granite finish, or birds eye maple in a New York loft apartment paired with Charles Eames recliners Layze boy chairs etc.
drool


Steve
Just add Gwen Stefani hitting the minibar and the picture would be complete.
Point taken Steve -in the right setting, that would look pretty spectacular. Industrial meets art-deco.
Point taken Steve -in the right setting, that would look pretty spectacular. Industrial meets art-deco.
Wilson Audio (not that I'm knocking WA per se), eat your hearts out. Big enclosures.
Nice render Dave.
Smaller than the BIBs GM & I have done for some of the big Eminence FR / WR units though. Everything's relative after all... 😉

Smaller than the BIBs GM & I have done for some of the big Eminence FR / WR units though. Everything's relative after all... 😉
That's not hardcore mate. You should see a couple of the evil plans I've got in mind at the moment. Not something I can build myself though sadly -no time, money or room.
😀 Thinking about your daylight job and your fondness for armoured criusers I get a scary feeling...
Yeah, I had all this free time planned to build some funky stuff, but then I got some work that will take me away from home for a few months.
Going to Australia to visit my folks in August, going to do a father son thing and build him (my father) something good!
Metronomes or BIB's look just the ticket! I want them to blow his old Bose thingy's into the weeds. Shouldn't be hard I know....
I wonder what these Metronomes would sound like in a surround system?
Stroop
Going to Australia to visit my folks in August, going to do a father son thing and build him (my father) something good!
Metronomes or BIB's look just the ticket! I want them to blow his old Bose thingy's into the weeds. Shouldn't be hard I know....
I wonder what these Metronomes would sound like in a surround system?
Stroop
Dave's got the plots for two of the 'milder' LF designs. I'm currently looking at multiple 15in woofers, run bipole, in a hybrid TL, per channel.
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