The Holy Grail Follower Output Stage

The zener diodes are being operated as "ordinary" diodes. An "ordinary" diode with an appropriate voltage drop could be substituted. I could get deeply into the circuit equations, but basically the diodes allow the variations of the bias current (voltage across the drain sense resistor) to modulate the current through the LED more effectively.
Also, for large output signals, when the output FET is turned on and drawing a very large current, the diode stops conducting, thus limiting the current into the LED to prevent the optocoupler output transistor from discharging the integrating capacitor (low pass filter) between the FET gates.

P1 adjusts the output offset voltage.
P2 adjusts the FET bias current.
 
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I have been using 6.9V zeners, but I am not sure if it matters much. I haven't tried an ordinary diode like a 1N4148 but it would probably work. There are lots of parameters that interact: quiescent voltage across the sense resistors, the optocoupler current transfer ratio, ,,,

Max power supply voltage: right now it is limited to +/-30V be the opa551 opamp, but the opa445 has +/-50V max rails.
The other limits are the limits of the single output FETs and the heatsinks.

My intent with the current implementation was a FirstWatt scale amplifier, both in rail voltages and heatsink requirements.
 
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How to include the Class AB feature of the M2OPS (with the LM385s) with this ?
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...in-class-a-b-and-maybe-a-power-whammy.390636/


Thinking out loud,
Patrick
The interesting thing about the undegenerated push-pull source-follower is that with the proper choice output FETs the behavior smoothly transitions to class AB at high output po lwer levels, assuming that to power rails are high enough. Yesterday is bench tested my prototype amp:.
  • Rail voltages: +/-24V.
  • Bias current: 1.3A
  • Output load: 4 Ohms
Amazing result: THD=0.022% at 50 watts (20V peak into 4R) 1kHz output.
I couldn't test at much higher output levels being limited by +/-24V rails and current limits of the SMPS.
 

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Hi lhquam,
The very good results you shared using the Meanwell switchers wired for a bipolar psu gave me motivation to improve the setup I was using. I reclaimed an old chipamp chassis to build an external power supply using a pair of Meanwell HRP-200-24 units already in my stash. I used a GLB pcb to create the common connection with 47R in series to star gnd.
Hopefully will get to put it into service soon!
 

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I am at a stage in the Holy Grail (aka. ZD25-Mini) listening and bench test evaluation that I highly recommend that others build this amplifier.

I have an new and improved PCB layout and if there is enough interest I will have some fabricated and will make the Gerber files available.

I have tested five different sets of output FETs and the FQA28N15/FQA36P15 FETs are the clear winner. That doesn't mean that other FET pairings will not give good results. I will soon post the comparisons.

The PS can be either SMPS or linear. I have tested both. The linear supply is more expensive, but has better known properties w.r.t. noise and some other potential issues.
 
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Of course, I am all about building experimental amplifiers. I have several board sets, chassis and power transformers that I treat like LEGOs.
I already have some IXTQ36N30P, IXTQ36P15P and IXTQ26P20P on hand. Those were to be used for F5m experimentation and might be interesting in the ZD25-mini as well. It would be interesting to see your test results so far.

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The FQA28N15 parts are no longer manufactured and the FQA36P15 are difficult. Did you mean IXT_ instead?
 
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The benefit compared to those with source degeneration depends a lot on the MOSFET pair.
For example, our simulations show that there is no advantage in using this for the 2SK3497/2SJ618 pair.
Rather it makes things much worse.
So you need to check the specific MOSFET combination.

Also you should distinguish between the distortion of the OPS only, and that in a closed loop circuit with e.g. the OPA551.


Patrick
 
Of course, I am all about building experimental amplifiers. I have several board sets, chassis and power transformers that I treat like LEGOs.
I already have some IXTQ36N30P, IXTQ36P15P and IXTQ26P20P on hand. Those were to be used for F5m experimentation and might be interesting in the ZD25-mini as well. It would be interesting to see your test results so far.

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The FQA28N15 parts are no longer manufactured and the FQA36P15 are difficult. Did you mean IXT_ instead?
I did mean the Fairchiild FQA28N15 and FQA36P15.
I have tested the pairing of IXYS IXTQ36N30P and IXTQ36P15P FETs and they would be acceptable.
I have not tested FQA28N15 (still available) with IXTQ36P15P. Worth a try.
 
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