The "Elsinore Project" Thread

Paint is done...I'll take better pictures tomorrow, this is a weird angle that doesn't do them justice but here's one any way. I have to make something for the crossover, but should have that done tomorrow and get it hooked up by the end of the day, and it should have off gassed enough by then also.
 

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It's just how heavy this HDF is. I laminated "hardy board" together to get the thicknesses, and the stuff feels like concrete but it would probably be lighter if it was?

I built the Elsinores the same way but didn't weigh them, but I brought them inside the house with my hand truck also empty except the xover is inside those boxes. They have to be over 100lbs they are almost twice as big.

Tomorrow I'm gonna polish it to a mirror finish, and I have to figure out how I'm gonna mount the xover. That's without any wet sanding, which I always do when I paint black any way. The front doesn't need it because it's flat and you can spray that heavier, but the side have some "orange peel" which I will get rid of tomorrow.
 
the peel is not as bad as the picture makes it look. But it's fairly easy to fix with my setup...I have sand paper all the way up to 4000 now, and it's almost shiny and that point so not much buffing needed. I had one damn fisheye on the front baffle for some reason, but I already did the first step to fix that, and it's almost gone already. When I built the Elsinores I screwed the box together all counter sunk and filled them, and they all later on raised up a tiny bit, and it drives me nuts, so this is all glued and clamped...not a single screw.
 
Very nice. Yes, screws can be a pain. I tend to use a 18 gauge brad nailer to help assembly go along. With the high gloss paint and clear though, I agree that clamping and gluing is the best. A little salt in the joint will help keep the panels from sliding if one is giving you trouble. a small amount of sand works too.

How is the edge of the panels doing on your elsinores? Did it stay flush?
 
Paint is done...I'll take better pictures tomorrow, this is a weird angle that doesn't do them justice.

Oh yeah, I know all about taking photos, and when it comes to something glossy... have you heard about softboxes or umbrellas that photographers use, very large areas of diffuse light? Two are best one on the left to the camera and another to the right, but one set to a lower intensity to the others. That sculpts the box.

I know a manufacturer who used HDF... and then stopped. It just got too much! 😀
 
It's just how heavy this HDF is. I laminated "hardy board" together to get the thicknesses, and the stuff feels like concrete but it would probably be lighter if it was?

Not sure what you used, but Hardie Board (often misspelled as Hardy) is in fact a cementitious product with cellulose added for a couple reasons. It’s the equivalent of the rebar and it makes the panel lighter. In other words it’s a type of lightweight concrete. It is cut by scoring and snapping, not a rotating blade.

I wonder if you actually used Hardboard? That’s HDF.
 
No more peel. Stayed up late to finish putting it together.
 

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And apparently I noticed after I just uploaded these pictures there is a scratch under the tweeter I just verified, that wasn't there between the time I screwed in the tweeter and installed the second woofer. I almost wish I hadn't noticed it, because I probably never would have know if I hadn't taking these pictures. I can buff it out, which would mean taking this monster back outside and taping off the drivers, but I'll have to see if it bothers me. I have no idea how I did that either. Only thing I can think of is I did it with the wiring. My back was hurting so I had to get up to take something for it, so I figured I'd get this post up while I was up.
 
Joe, with this Purifi hype, have you considered Satori MW16TX-8 as alternative upgrade from NRX/MFC ?

Let's get Purifi up and running... then somebody wants Hamlets Purifi'red for sure. As for the future? I am not telling...

As for Sartori drivers, I was more likely to do the MW16P. It looks the same motor as MW16XT, so they are just different cones, but TX cone is a LOT more expensive. But not as expensive as Purifi.

Their published responses favour the MW16P, and so does the price... this one is a possibility...?
 
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Hi, Joe,

We haven't corresponded with you in a while, hope all is well. You remain a man of many talents.

I have a question about your approach to crossover design which probably has been asked before, but I didn't find reference to it in a quick search of the thread. On the Elsinore DIY pages of your customanalogue website, you appear to be describing acoustic LR2 crossovers. Is my understanding of this correct, and if so, is there an important difference between standard LR2 crossovers and your crossover design approach that I'm maybe overlooking. Thanks.
 
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