No worries man. We all have had computers die on us. My main REW data collection laptop died last year and that took me months to get back up. Just saying if you had no choice at least earphones (even cheap earbuds) are probably better than OEM PC speakers.
Final reminder folks. Polls close in about 2hrs I think. Please get your votes in if you have not done so already. Also put your preferred driver that you like to listen to in an attached txt file.
Thanks for playing.
Thanks for playing.
I'm not really sure. They were similar and I was just using X as the reference and trying to be objective...
A funny thing I am noticing is that certain people whom I think have very discerning hearing seem to be voting one way. 🙂
Not saying it is right or wrong. Just interesting.
Not saying it is right or wrong. Just interesting.
Hi X,
will you lift the veil and reveal which X equalled X?
I find it amazing that there were even differing opinions as to the identity of X=B; but there you go. There's a lot to learn and understand about human perception. Thanks for setting up this test.
Were X and B different drivers that were both treated/not treated?
Cheers,
A.
will you lift the veil and reveal which X equalled X?
I find it amazing that there were even differing opinions as to the identity of X=B; but there you go. There's a lot to learn and understand about human perception. Thanks for setting up this test.
Were X and B different drivers that were both treated/not treated?
Cheers,
A.
My fault - I thought it was Sunday but ended up 2 weeks from when moderators setup the poll. No harm done just a bit to go.
Poll is closed - the big reveal.
Thanks for participating - I really appreciate the time people took to listen and make a choice as to which sounds more like X?
The answer is X and B are the same driver. Recorded just minutes apart but all settings fixed.
Driver X=B=FF85WK pristine #1
Driver A=FF85WKeN #1
It looks like about 4:1 people chose the correct match to driver X. Clearly one could hear the difference. However, the pristine driver appears to be a little different than the other 3 with regards to response around 2kHz to 3kHz. So that may have contributed to the rather large margin.
You will have to read the txt files to see what people actually preferred - from what I could gather - it's kind of split. Not a clear cut case.
Thanks for participating - I really appreciate the time people took to listen and make a choice as to which sounds more like X?
The answer is X and B are the same driver. Recorded just minutes apart but all settings fixed.
Driver X=B=FF85WK pristine #1
Driver A=FF85WKeN #1
It looks like about 4:1 people chose the correct match to driver X. Clearly one could hear the difference. However, the pristine driver appears to be a little different than the other 3 with regards to response around 2kHz to 3kHz. So that may have contributed to the rather large margin.
You will have to read the txt files to see what people actually preferred - from what I could gather - it's kind of split. Not a clear cut case.
... from the voting results and the varying preferences indeed no clear cut case - to my ears, though, the preference of driver A (the enAbled one) was a no-brainer, really.
I guess some people must have a very different hearing-EQ to myself.
Funny how I chose A as my preference but then chose it as sounding more like X. I may have just selected the driver I liked best without caring too much about the match. I did try it twice and came to the same conclusion. I primarily listened to the Norah Jones clip.
XRK, just to be clear, was B and X the same exact driver or was each one of the two pristine drivers?
XRK, just to be clear, was B and X the same exact driver or was each one of the two pristine drivers?
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Whoa! What an unexpected result for me. So, lesson #1, slight difference of FR has nothing to do with sound difference (?)...
What I don't get is what has been the effect of conditioning to the non-pristine driver? I expect the difference is in non-linear distortion (either due to conditioning or manufacturing) but I think the THD has been shown and is similar??
Honestly I still think that the difference should be on distortion...
May be the more sensitivity on the eNabl (A) is what makes it more detailed so is perceived closer to the sound of the reference. But these details came through as disturbing?? (Hmm may be I should listen again through my speakers). But the reference is NEVER disturbing so we can not say that detail=fatigue.
What I don't get is what has been the effect of conditioning to the non-pristine driver? I expect the difference is in non-linear distortion (either due to conditioning or manufacturing) but I think the THD has been shown and is similar??
Honestly I still think that the difference should be on distortion...
May be the more sensitivity on the eNabl (A) is what makes it more detailed so is perceived closer to the sound of the reference. But these details came through as disturbing?? (Hmm may be I should listen again through my speakers). But the reference is NEVER disturbing so we can not say that detail=fatigue.
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Interesting. A sounded clearly more natural and realistic to me. I guess that enabled stuff works. My guess was exactly backwards. It made the driver sound crisper and less damped. I did like AC/DC better with B, but frankly AC/DC always sounds better on cheap speakers.
Initially I did think that B and X sounded the same. Then I went back and listened to one track again, and B sounded duller. Obviously my ears were deceived and I was mistaken. 😛 Perhaps I listened to a different part of the same track. 😕 Sometimes when a singer steps back from a mic the timber can change quite a bit, even if the level is leveled back to normal afterwards. More likely I was just hasty and didn't listen carefully the second time.
Initially I did think that B and X sounded the same. Then I went back and listened to one track again, and B sounded duller. Obviously my ears were deceived and I was mistaken. 😛 Perhaps I listened to a different part of the same track. 😕 Sometimes when a singer steps back from a mic the timber can change quite a bit, even if the level is leveled back to normal afterwards. More likely I was just hasty and didn't listen carefully the second time.
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