Slewmaster - CFA vs. VFA "Rumble"

i notice that the BC550 Q1. Q2 and Q3 have been replaced with KSC1845k in this schematic. is it necessary to replace them? Do i have to cross the pins to do so?

I see there's a lot of changes. Removering some resistors and replacing Q4 with led.
Thimios, do you have a picture showing what the board should look like after the modifications?

I built Kypton V2 final because it was posted in the first post and I thought that it had been tested and was working. Have anyone built that exact ips successfully?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/248105-slewmaster-cfa-vs-vfa-rumble-539.html#post4126276
 
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i notice that the BC550 Q1. Q2 and Q3 have been replaced with KSC1845k in this schematic. is it necessary to replace them? Do i have to cross the pins to do so?

I see there's a lot of changes. Removering some resistors and replacing Q4 with led.
Thimios, do you have a picture showing what the board should look like after the modifications?

I built Kypton V2 final because it was posted in the first post and I thought that it had been tested and was working. Have anyone built that exact ips successfully?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/248105-slewmaster-cfa-vs-vfa-rumble-539.html#post4126276

You can use any high Ft BJT for Q1/2. The BC's are about the same if
you know the (1845) grades . BC550c is about the same as 1845 E or F grade. My 1845 E's were @ 380-400 hfe.

Thimios has it built , he showed it in this thread.

OS
 
Hello , Thimios.

I am almost sure my posted "V2" is where you had it "singing" 😀 .
Right ??
I did update the R13 (servo FB) to coincide with the other
servo'ed IPS's (symasui/spooky) 5.6K Z allowed for millisecond settling.
Both my Symasui and spook settled to .1mv within <100mS with this
value.

OS
Pete, please when you have the time look at post#9570,9571 where a two stage servo has been tested on the Symasui IPS.
 
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i notice that the BC550 Q1. Q2 and Q3 have been replaced with KSC1845k in this schematic. is it necessary to replace them? Do i have to cross the pins to do so?

I see there's a lot of changes. Removering some resistors and replacing Q4 with led.
Thimios, do you have a picture showing what the board should look like after the modifications?

I built Kypton V2 final because it was posted in the first post and I thought that it had been tested and was working. Have anyone built that exact ips successfully?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/solid-state/248105-slewmaster-cfa-vs-vfa-rumble-539.html#post4126276
Are you speaking about Kypton v?
 
I have already read it. But I can't find any posts from people building the version I tried. I can rebuild mine to OS' latest schematic (will have to order some extra parts), but I'm affraid that there might be a bug in the layout causing problems if no one else have built it before. There was some errors in silk screen vs schematics, so I was expecting trouble with this IPS
 
If this will be useful.
 

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This was a tricky one.
After probing all around the board, I measured a short between two legs on Q1. It was impossible to see, but after a reflow it was gone. Now I have light in both leds. 🙂
Glad i didn't start swapping parts.
 

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Voltages seems to be correct and I managed to adjust VAS to 5.5mV. The only differences I have from the schematic is R12 570R (470R+100R because I didn't have any 560R resistors) and C3 100p instead of 220p, since i forgot to order 220p caps.

It's powering the OPS now. Gonna put the scope on it and look for problems before I connect a speaker, remove light bulb and listen to music.
 

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The problem was a solder bridge on Q1. :headbash:

It's still not perfect. After listening to music for a while, the bias suddenly goes sky high. (0.5V).
Both OPS and IPS is new, so I have to do more troubleshooting to find out if it's ips or ops related.
 
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The amp is stable now. I Increased R14 and 15 to 4.7k, after that the bias was fine.

Here's some scope shots. I couldn't clip it with my soundcard so I didn't see the clipping behaviour.
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The square waves in was just as ugly as the output.
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Looking forward to get a stereo pair up and running so that I can test it on my main speakers. This will be a mobile test rig mounted on a MDF sheet to test different IPS, when I'm done I will probably make it into a tweeter amp.
 
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I just tried Kypton V2 with IRFp240 and 9240 at +/-40VDC and im getting very high bias on the output the Source resistors are smoking.

I tried increasing the resistor in the VAS stage to as much as 1000ohms but no use the output is quite high.

Can Kypton V2 be used to drive Hexfets?
I drove Laterals with ease but with Hexfets its bias is shooting badly..

In the ltspice sim its working perfectly but no idea why the bias is going out of control.
Even at VBe multiplier the variable bias setting resistor value has been 1000ohms but even then the bias is shooting out.
 

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I just tried Kypton V2 with IRFp240 and 9240 at +/-40VDC and im getting very high bias on the output the Source resistors are smoking.

I tried increasing the resistor in the VAS stage to as much as 1000ohms but no use the output is quite high.

Can Kypton V2 be used to drive Hexfets?
I drove Laterals with ease but with Hexfets its bias is shooting badly..

In the ltspice sim its working perfectly but no idea why the bias is going out of control.
Even at VBe multiplier the variable bias setting resistor value has been 1000ohms but even then the bias is shooting out.

Hi Rhythmsandy,

It looks very much like a local oscillation.
I don't want to "promote" my designs here in Pete's thread - just see the OPS schematic here:
VHex variation
Note D14, C10, C11, R25, R26. Red LED in the spreader makes the tempco of the spreader very close to the one of IRFP devices. You don't need to place the LED on the main heatsink (Q10 must be there, as usual).
This output stage will work with Kypton V perfectly.

Cheers,
Valery

P.S. Do you have an oscilloscope connected to the output?
 
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