JW , did taking the sprint 5 artwork and exporting through 6 solve the layer/alignment issue ?
Was any other errata found , as well ?
PS - I'm in a "conflict of interest" here. If the fact that my work (could be) created in a dubious manner is an issue - perhaps I can not submit any more ... as this may also violate forum rules ? Any thoughts ? Rules 5 + 13 are clear , but are not that explicit.
. Sorry to be divisive , but this has been a bad afternoon. 🙁
OS
Was any other errata found , as well ?
PS - I'm in a "conflict of interest" here. If the fact that my work (could be) created in a dubious manner is an issue - perhaps I can not submit any more ... as this may also violate forum rules ? Any thoughts ? Rules 5 + 13 are clear , but are not that explicit.
. Sorry to be divisive , but this has been a bad afternoon. 🙁
OS
Well said , JK !!
I try to find a happy and productive medium , as well.
If I can resolve (or live with) my "conflict" . I do have quite a round of IPS's
backed up.
I will admit , some of the present IPS's "skirt" some IP's. I have some unmade
IPS's that would violate the IP's of other forum members. I hold these secrets
dear ... even as these members will not speak to me anymore.
It happened after the "badger" .... for some reason I must of made some enemies
after that. All I want is for forum members to have "hi- end" audio amplification.
OS
OStripper,
Please don't let off on the gas! I for one have learned a bunch watching and studying your work. I have most of your designs in various states of completion. Please keep going. You will never please everyone all of the time. Why bother trying? Most of us here look forward to your every post.
Just my 2 cents. Discount at will.
Please don't let off on the gas! I for one have learned a bunch watching and studying your work. I have most of your designs in various states of completion. Please keep going. You will never please everyone all of the time. Why bother trying? Most of us here look forward to your every post.
Just my 2 cents. Discount at will.
You mean my 5 artwork ported through 6 ? See , I'm trying to find errata in both programs.
If 5's export functions are not standard or just buggy , that makes it just a glorified
toner transfer CAD.
I fixed 6 , X (unknown ... shhh ) version of 6 has a memory leak .
It even comes down to a conflict with X nvidia video drivers (graphics).
It would crash with certain CAD "effects" that were added to the new version.
A supported 6 (ahem!) ,might connect and patch this ... or you might not have X
version video card/driver.
This supports the need for trials in software products. 🙁
OS
Pete,
When if comes down to it, anybody designing today is building on the backs of those who came before, actually long before in most instances. We would have to go back to basic vacuum tube designs and see that many of the concepts used today came from there, so what. As long as you aren't taking an exact copy of a commercial product and copying that I don't think anybody is really creating something which isn't a modification of an earlier circuit or an improvement with simple changes. Car companies steal ideas all the time from each other, many even copy as close as possible the actual look of another car.
Keep your head up, I think you have been very clear that many of the circuits you have tweaked come from a specific amplifier circuit. No one is forcing anyone to use your work, it is all a choice on this site what people are doing. Now if as I said earlier you took someone's commercial product and copied down to the board layout and the exact implementation then there could be troubles. I don't believe you have done that in any instance. We are all here to share our knowledge and skills where we can.
When if comes down to it, anybody designing today is building on the backs of those who came before, actually long before in most instances. We would have to go back to basic vacuum tube designs and see that many of the concepts used today came from there, so what. As long as you aren't taking an exact copy of a commercial product and copying that I don't think anybody is really creating something which isn't a modification of an earlier circuit or an improvement with simple changes. Car companies steal ideas all the time from each other, many even copy as close as possible the actual look of another car.
Keep your head up, I think you have been very clear that many of the circuits you have tweaked come from a specific amplifier circuit. No one is forcing anyone to use your work, it is all a choice on this site what people are doing. Now if as I said earlier you took someone's commercial product and copied down to the board layout and the exact implementation then there could be troubles. I don't believe you have done that in any instance. We are all here to share our knowledge and skills where we can.
I opened your .lay file in 6 and exported the Gerbers from there. I haven't used 5 but I think you had some settings messed up. One of the layers was inverted and the drill holes were strange. I didn't do anything with the silk screen. The silk for the SMD jumpers is on the top side of the board, not the bottom. Would you like me to correct it?
I've had some strange issues in the past with video rendering with NVidea video cards that ended up to being HD Audio drivers.
I tried Sprint, then bought a copy but never really liked it. It seemed too clunky to me. Sprint lets you just draw a board without even adding parts as components, but this really limit's the functionality of the software. It will print a BOM if you take the time to add parts as components and enter all the data. That issue I had with the files I sent Kimschips and having to get a quick batch of boards made for him finished me off.
I made the switch to DipTrace. As long as I don't screw up the schematic, it won't let me make a mistake on the board. I haven't messed around with all the options but it does work with some LTSpice models too. I'm not sure if you can import a LTSpice schematic directly in but it would be very cool if you could. 500 pin two layer version is free for hobbyists too. I just need some time to make some nicer looking images for the silk screen. I've been lazy and mostly used the preloaded ones so far.
I made the switch to DipTrace. As long as I don't screw up the schematic, it won't let me make a mistake on the board. I haven't messed around with all the options but it does work with some LTSpice models too. I'm not sure if you can import a LTSpice schematic directly in but it would be very cool if you could. 500 pin two layer version is free for hobbyists too. I just need some time to make some nicer looking images for the silk screen. I've been lazy and mostly used the preloaded ones so far.
I used 5's default export setup. That must mean the default in 5 is a non-standard
inverted layer. I did not check the "inverted" box for any layer.
You are right on , specifically ... the HD audio part of the newer Nvidia driver
was the crucial update. I'm surprised abacom did not debug for one of the
the most common video chipsets.
Geez , I have to debug software - pay ME !
OS
I've had the HD Audio drivers blue screen a few fresh installs of Windows 7. It took a few hours to figure it out the first time. I'm not a coder, they are! I shouldn't have to fix their mess. That's a tough go when you are learning a new operating system at the same time.
JW , the silk and the SMD jumpers are on the top layer.
See the C1 traces going from the predriver pads ?
I did this just for confirmation/convenience.
JK did this with the wolverine.
OS
See the C1 traces going from the predriver pads ?
I did this just for confirmation/convenience.
JK did this with the wolverine.
OS
Nope , unless you live in a 1'st world place , server times out. NO diptrace for me
(too slow). Bummer.
OS
(too slow). Bummer.
OS
If you email them and tell them you are using it for Non-Profit use they will send you a free 500 pin licence. Valery told me they get a free 1000 pin licence in Russia. I just had to upgrade to that myself. $125 here but money well spent I think. I'll send you the install files with the next batch of parts.
I have both Sprint 5 and Sprint 6, and have tried several others. KiCAD and DipTrace are more integrated tools, with KiCAD being free and DipTrace having pin-limited free version(s) and 1000 pins being decently priced. Eagle is a mystery to me. I like Sprint as a basic tool. I haven't had any issues getting boards made with either Sprint versions so I'm not sure why OS's export was not quite right. I have played around with DipTrace and it looks like it is something for me to get more familiar with. I'm just not crazy about DipTraces schematic tool; you need a massive 'sheet' to create larger / busier schematics.
Rural america ....
Thank you , bro !😎
(below) I tried 🙁🙄
Not to whine , but I pay my bills. 110$/mo. Same in albany 60$ .... download
would fail there , too - DSL. Cable at 3am , this PC rocks (30mbs) - not available 🙁 - even the cable would bomb out at 5pm to dsl speeds.
This is a common US thing. It's shameful what my EU counterparts have for standard IPS quality. One more lost hour (before failure).
Dang , I really wanted to try it !
OS
Thank you , bro !😎
(below) I tried 🙁🙄
Not to whine , but I pay my bills. 110$/mo. Same in albany 60$ .... download
would fail there , too - DSL. Cable at 3am , this PC rocks (30mbs) - not available 🙁 - even the cable would bomb out at 5pm to dsl speeds.
This is a common US thing. It's shameful what my EU counterparts have for standard IPS quality. One more lost hour (before failure).
Dang , I really wanted to try it !
OS
Attachments
If you use busses and netports you can spread a schematic over multiple sheets neatly. I like to break each section of a circuit onto another sheet. I think it's easier for people to follow that way.