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Well testing didn't go as well as hoped. It looked good at first. I played music through it using a Krypton C IPS and all seemed fine. The bias is near the end of adjustment so it looks like it can handle a hot VAS. I then tried the CF-FET through it and it looked fine through my Variac. But then I hooked it up to my A/B setup and it seemed fine still until I turned up the input and then R17-20 caught fire. I wasn't looking at the bias at the moment so I don't know if it shot up but now one of my boards is really ugly. Enough for today.

No pictures of the carnage?
 
I should have probably measured across those resistors, because I noticed that OPS pulls a bit of current even with the bias adjusted to 0.00v so the drivers must be drawing a pretty good load. I guess with the added load of the IPS it was just too much. The CF-CET has only been used through the Tubsumo OPS so far. I guess I had better test how much it draws too. Anyway, here's a pic.
 

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I said I was done for the day but I couldn't stay away. I replaced the drivers and R17-20. I checked the OPS with 15K resistors and everything looks fine. So I dialed the bias all the way down and hooked up the IPS again it looked good. I ran sine waves and square waves through it and all looked good. So then I hooked it up to a CD and played music through it. Looked good for about 5 minutes when the 2SA shorted and R19,20 went up in flames again. So now I'm thining there is definitely something amiss in the CF-FET. I repair it again and try other Slew IPS's.

Any ideas what is causing the drivers to short out?

Blessings, Terry
 
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I questioned that earlier but you seemed to defend it. I thought I'd try it since it is a nice small package. If you would rather we only talk about your designs I'm cool with that.

Blessings, Terry

I'm not DX ?? Much more open to a deviation in the design.

Mistakes are great learning tools. If everything worked , what would
we learn ?
I would prefer we fix any design than to discount it !
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I said I was done for the day but I couldn't stay away. I replaced the drivers and R17-20. I checked the OPS with 15K resistors and everything looks fine. So I dialed the bias all the way down and hooked up the IPS again it looked good. I ran sine waves and square waves through it and all looked good. So then I hooked it up to a CD and played music through it. Looked good for about 5 minutes when the 2SA shorted and R19,20 went up in flames again. So now I'm thining there is definitely something amiss in the CF-FET. I repair it again and try other Slew IPS's.

Any ideas what is causing the drivers to short out?

Blessings, Terry

post the voltages (schema) before you "blow" it ...
edit - what is the "CF-FET" ?
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Bellow 3 IPS boards --> files for thermotransfer, the 4th one Ill check after my holidays.
There is still some work left on all of them but they are safe to solder anyway.
IMPORTANT --> tube IPS is causing full DC at the output of the amp before cathodes are heated up so it can be used only with DC protection circuit (it needs approx 5-8s before NFB starts to correct DC).

The CFP-Mad, was tested on +/-45V psu so far.

Hi Borys,

You've got my attention. Can you post a silk mirror for those when you get a chance.

Thanks, Terry
 

Oh , it's brother Val's creation.

Looks like he tested on both his VFET/LFET output stages , but not on a
BJT OPS.

Just like the infidel and the first "kypton V" , there are certain IPS's that do
not interact well with the EF3.
Lack of VAS cpacitance and other factors have to be simulated with the
original slew OPS.
Typically , any that work with the BJT will work with the FET OPS's.
Sometimes , the opposite might not be true. Hard to accurately sim
the MOSFET OPS's ... build it and cross yer' fingers ... 🙄

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I'll try to simulate/investigate what happens with EF3 BJT over the next few days.
Pete, you're right - I tested only with VFET/LFET ones and those ran smoothly for weeks.
IRF610/9610 VAS is rather high-current (20 mA) - better linearity in this region - and the whole thing is rather fast. Something causes the current shoot-through in the OPS...
 
I'll try to simulate/investigate what happens with EF3 BJT over the next few days.
Pete, you're right - I tested only with VFET/LFET ones and those ran smoothly for weeks.
IRF610/9610 VAS is rather high-current (20 mA) - better linearity in this region - and the whole thing is rather fast. Something causes the current shoot-through in the OPS...

He would have to run the FET VAS in a non-linear region to get <10ma
VAS I. At 20ma , I'm not sure you could even bias the EF3 ?

Another factor ... that looks like Borys's OPS (burned up) ??

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