Re: UPDATED COOK BOOK
Thx it looks like you've inverted p. 13 and 14?
(only to show with which attention I read your paper...)

Zen Mod said:anyway : lookie lookie here :
http://czsr_bac.on.neobee.net/The Pumpkin & Shunty.pdf
corrected few mistakes on schematic , also implemented "How Pumpkin works" and "How Shunty works " babbbblings [/B]
Thx it looks like you've inverted p. 13 and 14?
(only to show with which attention I read your paper...)

Re: UPDATED COOK BOOK
I printed the "incorrect" version yesterday! Copy-pasted babbliing from the forum, printed....

Zen Mod said:
corrected few mistakes on schematic , also implemented "How Pumpkin works" and "How Shunty works " babbbblings
I printed the "incorrect" version yesterday! Copy-pasted babbliing from the forum, printed....


Re: Re: UPDATED COOK BOOK
goin' to check that .....
sorry Vix!
Manu said:
Thx it looks like you've inverted p. 13 and 14?
(only to show with which attention I read your paper...)
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goin' to check that .....
sorry Vix!
Manu said:If they are not neat and lovely, I don't know what is.
I chose wima caps because of the color![]()
whoa!
MKP4 - 10uF/250V ......
ya didn' found anything smaller ?
where you'll put heatsinks ?

just in case - if you don't choose plain sheet of Al , heatsinks can be :
Fischer
SK81-50 SA
SK75-50
Austerlitz
KS100.3-50
KS32.1-50E
I almost forgot to say :
Ugly!

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what's ugly greenie right from Pumpies ?

Manu said:..........
Wima MKP4 : isnogood?
itisgood

whazzat layed brown thingie, in para with MKP4 ?
Manu said:
Zeyare Caps too!
Old ones. No brand...
They are only laying there for size test purpose.
But I think I will use little wima as bypass.
use whatever other drek you have as bypass
100n is enough
edit:
manu sez "isnogood.......?"
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Zen Mod said:blind squirrel
Zjou is forgetting me is the King of the Polystyrene C.
The Shunty/Pumpkin boards are Double Dutch yummie, a shame to waste 4 out of 6 bypass cap holes.
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mpmarino said:the junkyard game
Mark,
if you take a good look you'll see at least three different resistor types on the piccy, the bulk being 2% and 5 % accurate 50ppm 0.6W Philies.(red and gold band)
Which means very little because i handpick and check each component, each R on the board is 0.1% accurate.
I've got at least 10K of the 2% red variety (forgot the exact number), bought the entire lot for $70, a few hundred of each value on a tape.
The Dales i've got at least 5K of, 1987 production series.
The smaller blue caps are 0.68uF Siemens decent quality polyester types, couldn't fit large enough polyprops there and mkp isn't exactly required at those locations.
The big blue MKP types on top are RiFa430s on the output, Siemens KP where the Rifas wouldn't fit.
On the bottom side of the board are high value 1% polystyrene caps, the very best ever made. Previously only used for RIAA purposes because they were filthy expensive.
(me used to drool at the counter of fancy shops with the little cash i had saved, nowadays i enjoy dumpster diving more than driving up to slick entrances and sometimes a dumpster contains what green bills no longer buy)
If you look hard you can come up with at least 5 reasons for the PTFE sleeving, Chinese fortune cookie proverb says Condom-Man make jokeys otherwise would be very boring arrogant prick.
You guys die if i tell about the kind of split-bobbin transformer monsters i found for the Shuntsters.
(me is pretty big but my Fata says i'm still a shorty, i told my shrink to shut up cause he doesn't exist)
Cook Book
ya boyz are completely nutz
anyway - slightly updated Cook Book is uploaded ; few additional notes added .......
Click here for COOK BOOK
ya boyz are completely nutz

anyway - slightly updated Cook Book is uploaded ; few additional notes added .......
Click here for COOK BOOK
HBarske said:Papa's toy will be gone by next week- some diy progress is urgently needed...
Not sure if those beer cans will make it into, but I'll give them a try.
did you found enough material for translation (for our friends at Analog ) in last


regarding previous pic:
why don't you just tell that some thieves tooked that crummy amp from ya ...... ?
and - jensens will do , but - if you have some older Siemens of Rifa uglies, don't hesitate ............ Pumpie is made with old tech in mind 😉
Hey ZM,
Maybe you could mention the pages that have updates in the latest
Cookbook- you know, then we could save all those trees and not reprint he whole thing ..
😉
Maybe you could mention the pages that have updates in the latest
Cookbook- you know, then we could save all those trees and not reprint he whole thing ..
😉
Variac said:Hey ZM,
Maybe you could mention the pages that have updates in the latest
Cookbook- you know, then we could save all those trees and not reprint he whole thing ..
😉
yes Bwana .........

just one page added .......... AS LAST ONE
there it is (I mean text ) :
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ADDITIONAL NOTES :
HEATSINKS :
Fischer
SK81-50 SA
SK75-50 OR
Austerlitz
KS100.3-50
KS32.1-50E
CONNECTION :
You can connect Pumpkin inputs and outputs in all combinations you can imagine ;
My advice can be – use balanced pot(s) for inputs (either one 4-deck , or two independent stereo pots) in any value you choose – from 5K to 50K , log off course .
Then use XLR chassis connectors for all inputs and outputs .
That’s certainly most convenient if you choose balanced input – balanced output configuration .
If you choose to use unbalanced either input or output (or both unbalanced) , again use XLR cable jack even for unbalanced ,and just tie ( solder) pins 1&3 inside that cable jack .
So – these combinations are possible :
- bal in : bal out
- unbal in : bal out
- unbal in : unbal out
- bal in : unbal out
In every “unbal” case – you must tie 1&3 pins in XLR ;
It’s also possible special situation – where you use bal out and unbal out in same time, but (naturally) WITHOUT tying 1&3 pins of output XLR (just because tying those pins you are just killing balanced out entirely) , where you as “unbal” out are using in fact just half of balanced signal ................... where HOT is from pin 2 (+ output) and gnd is from gnd , what else 😉 ; That’s useful for biamping purpose , where one power amp is balanced and other is not .......... and 6db difference between balanced and unbalanced is something that suits your needs .........
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who will print entire drek , without looking what's in it?

Zen Mod said:
In your boots- I'll try to play safe ...... ask for another opinion, maybe I dreked something .......
hehe - "maybe" ..............
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Originally posted by Manu
iZMogood :
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And particularly the if -it-works-section is a very good place to learn .... at least for newby like me.
manu
I have few questions about Pumpkin/shunty :
1. regarding X-former : would a "2x30V" Trafo - which gives about 80V after bridge - be a good choice or not? Or should I rob my wife to buy a new one....
2. Regarding the electrolytics in Both Pumpkin and Shunty : is there any "crucial" places where it could be worth it to use some not-so-drekky ones ?
Manu
Manu said:
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edit :
I have few questions about Pumpkin/shunty :
1. regarding X-former : would a "2x30V" Trafo - which gives about 80V after bridge - be a good choice or not? Or should I rob my wife to buy a new one....
2. Regarding the electrolytics in Both Pumpkin and Shunty : is there any "crucial" places where it could be worth it to use some not-so-drekky ones ?
Manu
1. you need +/-36V at output , after some pretty big voltage losses ;I can't recommend any voltage bellow +/- 50V on input , that's absolute minimum, and just in case that your mains voltage have no sags of -10%
2. on output of Shunty and local ones in P .
Variac said:Manu, could you rob 2 more of those transformers for me from your wife's closet ? 😀
Choky,
When you say "local" I'm not sure what that means?
Mark
sorry - "local decoupling" ................
Variac said:Manu, could you rob 2 more of those transformers for me from your wife's closet ? 😀
Mark
Mark :
I've tried ... but no way :

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boyz
I'm not at home , and I'm lazy to wander through net to see dreky Shanty schemo..... but - if you think on resistor in series with darlington - it is wise to make it 0R, as I wrote in Cook Book ....... with 0R1 , you'll have less stability ...
I'm not at home , and I'm lazy to wander through net to see dreky Shanty schemo..... but - if you think on resistor in series with darlington - it is wise to make it 0R, as I wrote in Cook Book ....... with 0R1 , you'll have less stability ...
Pumpkin Volume Control
Hi. What would be the best volume control for the pumpkin?
It is a balanced input preamp, so a few question:
If use as single ended, do we just ground one input and input the signal into the remaining input, any side is better than the other for that?
-I guest we need a balanced volume control. Is this balanced 5K serie attenuator fro K&K audio a good choice: http://www.kandkaudio.com/linestage.html
any other suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
Hi. What would be the best volume control for the pumpkin?
It is a balanced input preamp, so a few question:
If use as single ended, do we just ground one input and input the signal into the remaining input, any side is better than the other for that?
-I guest we need a balanced volume control. Is this balanced 5K serie attenuator fro K&K audio a good choice: http://www.kandkaudio.com/linestage.html
any other suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
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