Official M2 schematic

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Generg, you may have a point there: the DC drifts when I touch the supply clips. Will mount proper cables tomorrow.

Firmed up the power supply cabling and now the DC drift is within +-10mV.

I have the hunch that the remaining erratic drift comes in from the mains, very difficult to establish this in measurement, though.

The absolute Vgs in my FQA devices differ by almost 2V, so there is a chance that changes in supply voltage convey to the output DC.
 
I have the hunch that the remaining erratic drift comes in from the mains, very difficult to establish this in measurement, though.

Attached a shot from my scope to back up my hypothesis. Bottom trace is positive rail (AC coupled, 50mV/Div), top trace is output (DC coupled, 20mV/Div). Time scale is .5s/Div.

In the middle of the screen there seems to be a drop in supply voltage by 50mV or so, followed by a recovery of the beam position due to the coupling capacitor of the scope. At the same position the output DC starts to rise.

Maybe you find this interesting.
 

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The offset of an M2 will drift with supply some mV due to the mismatch
of Vgs of the N channel vs P Mosfets. The pot is meant to trim that, but
if you do the math, some dependency on ps voltage remains.

You can regulate the voltages feeding current to the bias circuit if you like.

:cool:
 
This is well noted Nelson.

Do we need to change value of R6 & R7 if we use Toshiba 2SK1530/2SJ201 for Q1 & Q2 ? What value? I understand they have slightly lower Vgs requirement than IRF mosfets.

Also, I'd like to put few naked Vishay resistors to your very nice design - will there be advantage and which part are these?
 
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This is well noted Nelson.

Do we need to change value of R6 & R7 if we use Toshiba 2SK1530/2SJ201 for Q1 & Q2 ? What value? I understand they have slightly lower Vgs requirement than IRF mosfets.

Also, I'd like to put few naked Vishay resistors to your very nice design - will there be advantage and which part are these?

Good question I plan to use those Toshiba devices to.
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This is well noted Nelson.

Do we need to change value of R6 & R7 if we use Toshiba 2SK1530/2SJ201 for Q1 & Q2 ? What value? I understand they have slightly lower Vgs requirement than IRF mosfets.

Also, I'd like to put few naked Vishay resistors to your very nice design - will there be advantage and which part are these?

no need to change anything

Vishay's - there is so many resistors , so you can put them in all positions

:clown:
 
Which of the FQA gave lower Vgs? If it is the N, you may try compensating using 2-3 1N4148 diodes or a green LED in series with P1. Or, you may use the Toshiba 2SJ201 and 2SK1530, they exhibit Vgs difference of about 300mV at 1.3A Id.

Cunning! I might try that. Unfortunately the LED won't light up...
Voltage regs would be simple, too, but more parts I'd need to cram in. And I don't have any at hand.

My FQAs have Vgs = 3.74 V for the N channel and Vgs = -5.62 V for P, measured in situ.

I have Toshibas as well, and if I find the time I'll drop them in later today.
 
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