Since you mention the Satori, do have a look at their SB65 wide ranger.
It works well down to 300Hz (below that, distortion rises sharply) and has a very wide dispersion higher up, that challenges some tweeters.
It is gorgeous reproducing strings and percussion instruments.
It does need some break in time to clean up, but no where near the 500 hours recommended for MA drivers.
It works well down to 300Hz (below that, distortion rises sharply) and has a very wide dispersion higher up, that challenges some tweeters.
It is gorgeous reproducing strings and percussion instruments.
It does need some break in time to clean up, but no where near the 500 hours recommended for MA drivers.
Talk to CSS and tell them a of your commercial plans and their ears might prick up if volume sales are are a possibility. Worth a shot.
Going to be experimenting with a “tripolar” side surround speaker using 4 BMR’s per speaker, hoping to have them running at the weekend.
Looking nice. Are the side drivers wired as bipolar or dipolar? How do they sound and how close to your seating?
I might be able to source some of the older CSS drivers, any tips on small line arrays, and if its even worth doing, say 3 or 5 drivers with woofer.
3 or 5 drivers, you'll get power difference between the drivers, and all the inconveniences of a line array without the benefits.
If you want more than one driver, assisted with woofer, the Nola Brio clones are really nice.
If you want more than one driver, assisted with woofer, the Nola Brio clones are really nice.
@percevalm, thanks, so how many in an array to make it worthwhile?
I thought (in my very limited knowledge) that although you wouldn't get a full floor to ceiling line array, the notion of doubling drivers, would half distortion, and overall increase SD, with such tight centre to centre spacing having a few units would still act similar to a point source single larger driver.
I thought (in my very limited knowledge) that although you wouldn't get a full floor to ceiling line array, the notion of doubling drivers, would half distortion, and overall increase SD, with such tight centre to centre spacing having a few units would still act similar to a point source single larger driver.
Doubling is fine. Look at the Nola Brio. Very fine little speaker.
It could also be one drive on the front baffle, one driver firing from behind.
But 5 drivers in an array shape is not a good idea, unless there's some sort of XO between them, as in WWMMT, and variations of.
It could also be one drive on the front baffle, one driver firing from behind.
But 5 drivers in an array shape is not a good idea, unless there's some sort of XO between them, as in WWMMT, and variations of.
Looking nice. Are the side drivers wired as bipolar or dipolar? How do they sound and how close to your seating?
Sorry Jeff, I missed your post, this is how they look but I’m probably going to make a nicer mk2 version in white.
I have a pair of drivers on the front & one each side, they are wired series parallel for 4ohm nominal load & all in phase.
I’m really pleased with the result, very subtle & diffuse surround effect, they draw much less attention to themselves than the MKsound tripole speakers they have replaced but still give a great “surround bubble” effect, I’d like to swap my atoms speakers for BMR’s but I may cheat & grab a couple of white Cambridge Audio minx22’s 2nd hand at some point.
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Are they any BMR style woofers (thinking like Boenicke use) that would mate well with the smaller 3.5" ones?
Are they any BMR style woofers (thinking like Boenicke use) that would mate well with the smaller 3.5" ones?
TB has a bunch of flat cone subs that might interest you.
Ranging from 5" to 8", square or round bezel.
W5-2053 - 5" PPM + Mica Subwoofer - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.
W6-1936S - 6.5" Aluminum Subwoofer - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.
W6-2100 - 6.5" PP+Mica Subwoofer - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.
W8-1853 - 8" PP Subwoofer - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD.
Has anyone tried any of these?
Dickason did a review on the smaller version:
Test Bench: Tang Band W3-2088SOF Micro Home Audio Subwoofer | audioXpress
BTW, the 2053 is practically the same driver as this: W4-2089 - 4" PPM Subwoofer - TB SPEAKER CO., LTD. , but in a slightly different frame for those who wants a very narrow box.
Finally a new BMR based speaker that looks impressive, with some serious investment in 'tooling'
What do you guys think, novel approach to bass.
HYLIXA • Node Audio Research
https://www.node-audio.com/docs/hylixa-technical-white-paper.pdf
What do you guys think, novel approach to bass.
HYLIXA • Node Audio Research
https://www.node-audio.com/docs/hylixa-technical-white-paper.pdf
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Prices start at £27,000
Ouch!
Bass driver hidden inside the shell, with a helix transmission line. Might be cute.
Would need to see some measurements, and hear how they really perform.
Makes me wonder how low it goes and how loud with moderate distortion. The TL exit area is not huge, neither the midrange membrane...
It would be nice to read that this thing breaks the laws of physics!
So, it's a 3-way and this might be BMR (+tweeter's) response in nearfield
It would be nice to read that this thing breaks the laws of physics!
So, it's a 3-way and this might be BMR (+tweeter's) response in nearfield

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Frequency response in their spec page.
I bet those cabs are over £4k to print and some long days of design, not your average box.
Have you seen how the front sealed cabinet bolts onto the woofers magnet?
Based in Cambridge, maybe we can send Derek, to go an evaluate, I wonder how they would compare to his original Manger based Overkill Audio set up?
I bet those cabs are over £4k to print and some long days of design, not your average box.
Have you seen how the front sealed cabinet bolts onto the woofers magnet?
Based in Cambridge, maybe we can send Derek, to go an evaluate, I wonder how they would compare to his original Manger based Overkill Audio set up?
Frequency response in their spec page.
Yep, and kinda weird that it starts beaming at 3kHz, when all they talk about on the page is how wide the dispersion is....
Makes me wonder how low it goes and how loud with moderate distortion. The TL exit area is not huge, neither the midrange membrane...
It would be nice to read that this thing breaks the laws of physics!
Indeed!
Based in Cambridge, maybe we can send Derek, to go an evaluate, I wonder how they would compare to his original Manger based Overkill Audio set up?
I heard them at last year's UK North West Audio Show and they sounded very good, given the size of room. Good bass and a strong image. The designers are very enthusiastic and they've put some genuinely innovative thinking into the loudspeaker.
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