The likes of "Raven's Progressive Matrices test" are easy/simple.
Dan.
If you get a high enough score on it, you can use it to join the Triple Nine Society, a social organization for people with IQ's in the top 0.1% of the population. That suggests a getting a high score probably wouldn't be so easy for about the other 99.9% of the population. But, I would agree that the first questions are easy. They get harder as it goes along.
Do you have a link to the complete test, sounds interesting.
DiyAudio members could post their scores lol.
Dan.
DiyAudio members could post their scores lol.
Dan.
The test is proprietary, but there is an advanced online version here for people who can score 130+ on the Mensa qualifying tests: https://iqpro.org/ Link is at the bottom of the page.
With reference to Raven's tests, the term "advanced" means the particular test version is designed to differentiate people with higher IQs.
With reference to Raven's tests, the term "advanced" means the particular test version is designed to differentiate people with higher IQs.
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a social organization
You reckon folks can get laid by joining that club ?
(a 969 threesome with a pair of geek women would be primo pukka)
You reckon folks can get laid by joining that club ?
Sure, that and being an extremely wealthy movie, rock, or sports star.
I was fortunate enough to be tested in 7th grade (ACT, not SAT) through JHU's program (IIRC?) and did well, but I'm certainly not exceptional in any fashion. I was, however, fortunate enough to be part of a large school district that had a pull-out program for "Talented and Gifted" students. Once a week a number of us from my elementary school were bussed to a separate school where we did age-appropriate special topics/projects (basics of thermodynamics, computer programming, rocket flight and a project on whales come to mind) that were above and beyond what could be done in a normal classroom.
I remember something like this in 1st grade I think. Myself and two other kids would go to a special room and they'd make us do math problems. We'd return after the classroom we were from was done with "math". It seemed like the typical scenario was we'd walk in on them counting Skittles they got to eat at the end or something like that... while we'd been slaving away to answer lots of math questions.
When I wanted to go to college I took the ACT, I did somewhere above the "range" they expected in math, awesome you might say, and I forgot my calculator... Funny thing, more so than forgetting a calculator... In High School I repeated a math class because I had a teacher I couldn't understand when she talked at all so I sat at her desk and fell asleep most days. She would talk into my ear and I wouldn't know what she was saying... I mean I'd stay after school for private tutoring and it was literally like she spoke another language. Then I had a male teacher my last year and I got 95+% without ever make corrections or anything for extra credit - no effort at all just did the work. I later learned that women's voices register in the music part of the male brain. I asked that female teacher, and another, how to solve square root as a formula and none of the high school ones could answer... They also loved to downgrade me because I'd write comprehensive formulas for my calculator to do all the problems for me - I got a lot of "show your work" written on my homework and tests. 🙄
I think many of you don't know what Universities are like today. So many times I was upset in classes because they were boring as hell, discussing trivial pathetic ideas of "interest" (for the small minded people that prefer confirmation bias over challenge). And when you dare bring up something interesting it gets subverted because it's over the head of all the other cash-cows in the room.
One prominent "big deal" grad student was drunk at a bar and told me, "you can be intimidating, I think you're smarter than me, like, 90% of the time".... At least he knew it so I didn't get poor grades from him, but other times class buddies were confused as to how they got an A, for totally BSing, and how I'd get a C when I understood the material.
BTW I believe I suffer an affliction of inability to memorize dates and names of many things as well, but not all the time. I concentrate on concepts, networking, etc... I always noticed many students when were memorizers could never apply what they knew.
It's interesting how some really smart and talented people can be quite childish and frivolous in the more normal aspects of life like having relationships, taking care of personal health, managing money.
My uncle is silly smart. I mean the world works the way it does today because of him in many aspects. I don't personally know anyone smarter and can't name anyone off hand I've heard about. However his wife would tell you he can be a complete idiot... She hated when she'd go to buy stuff and find out their bank account was empty because he had months and months of paychecks in the glove box or in a cupboard somewhere at home.
When I lived on a boat, we all knew what filthy creatures saltwater cat fish are. We hated to catch them, and no one would think of eating one. Scatfish, indeed! Now I'm worried about freshwater cats.
The fish farms I've seen used corn meal to feed the catfish. Pig poop fish is not very appetizing.

Being smarter does not in itself make you more objective, unfortunately.
On the contrary.
(catfish aren't named bottom feeders for no reason : eats S, tastes like S)
The test is proprietary, but there is an advanced online version here for people who can score 130+ on the Mensa qualifying tests: https://iqpro.org/ Link is at the bottom of the page.
With reference to Raven's tests, the term "advanced" means the particular test version is designed to differentiate people with higher IQs.
They want money at the end of. That's twenty minutes of my life I never get back! :-(
Has the (sample report) any meaning or is it the same for everyone?
They want money at the end of. That's twenty minutes of my life I never get back! :-(
Has the (sample report) any meaning or is it the same for everyone?
I think its the same. At least you got 20 minutes of enjoyable mental stimulation out of it?
Most of it was rather tedious but it got more interesting later on and with about 5 questions the answer diagrams didn't display properly.
Did you do it?
And if so did it look like this:
"This is how your report will look.
IQ score standardized up to first standard deviation is 140.
Normalized score based on your age is 99.61696 percentile.
Raw test score is 60.
Based on score estimated intelligence level is "Very superior intelligence"*.
People with IQ of 140 are approximately 1 in 260 in the population.
Average IQ of population of your country is 102**"?
Did you do it?
And if so did it look like this:
"This is how your report will look.
IQ score standardized up to first standard deviation is 140.
Normalized score based on your age is 99.61696 percentile.
Raw test score is 60.
Based on score estimated intelligence level is "Very superior intelligence"*.
People with IQ of 140 are approximately 1 in 260 in the population.
Average IQ of population of your country is 102**"?
I just flipped through it very quickly to check. Answered randomly. Same sample report you got. Also, I see there is a message at the beginning before starting that a report will be offered for sale at the end. The diagrams look like they are taken from the original Raven's test, which is still licensed intellectual property, so I expect they have to license it or pay royalties somehow. Such tests are expensive to develop and validate because they have to be given to a fairly large population of people, among other things. I am not aware of any established IQ tests for free, somebody has to pay for the testing even if it isn't the test taker.
Mensa did for free for me, they just wanted me to join after. 🙂
Somebody still probably had to pay the owner of the test, maybe a donor to Mensa.
Hmmmm... What can an organization like Mensa do for you? I mean, what are the advantages of joining such organization?Mensa did for free for me, they just wanted me to join after. 🙂
I have thought that IQ testing is silly, unless it is for kids where people need to know their potentials. Or for younger adults where companies need to know whether employee candidates have the ability to solve complex problems...
I'm 45 and have planned for a new different career in my older age. I'm not sure yet what field it is going to be, but sure that Marketing is going to be necessary. So, I think, may be it can be useful for Marketing purposes, especially if I choose fields such as education or training??
BTW I believe I suffer an affliction of inability to memorize dates and names of many things as well, but not all the time. I concentrate on concepts, networking, etc... I always noticed many students when were memorizers could never apply what they knew.
Yep. That's me, too. Concepts and ideas and principles. I learned at LLNL.... there are people in the world who learn a LOT about one area or specialty and you could ask them for help when needed. So, I went into project managing and was a top ranked one ... I believe one doesnt need to know the answers as long as you can locate/hire someone who does. But, you do have to be able to learn fast and be organized and know what questions to ask.
-RNM
Normalized score based on your age is 99.61696 percentile
100 - 99.61696 = 0.38304
0.4 percent times 250 = 1
0.4 versus 0.38304 is > 4.4 percent off
Makes less than 1 in 261 (250 x 4.4 percent is 11)
(I take it calculus is not their forté, neither head count nor calculator)
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Yep. That's me, too. Concepts and ideas and principles. I learned at LLNL.... there are people in the world who learn a LOT about one area or specialty and you could ask them for help when needed. So, I went into project managing and was a top ranked one ... I believe one doesnt need to know the answers as long as you can locate/hire someone who does. But, you do have to be able to learn fast and be organized and know what questions to ask.
-RNM
Funny, I was just thinking I should get my PMP.
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