Hello,
here I want to describe how I do make a sandwich cone with aluminium foil.
This can be done with normal household aluminium foil and normal glue you can buy everywhere as "universal glue".
You need a scissor and the materials like aluminium foil, glue and the loudspeaker.
The foil can be applied easily to paper cones / diaphragms.
You can use thin aluminium foil from the gold smith and the glue they sell (in german "Anlegemilch") for making sandwich cones with polypropylene loudspeaker cones as here normal glue will not work. Also for delicate whizzer cones the thin aluminium foil from the goldsmith will be a better choice.
More information on this concerning loudspeaker history and theory in this thread and my post:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...cone-speaker-cone-profile.402470/post-7432593
here I want to describe how I do make a sandwich cone with aluminium foil.
This can be done with normal household aluminium foil and normal glue you can buy everywhere as "universal glue".
You need a scissor and the materials like aluminium foil, glue and the loudspeaker.
The foil can be applied easily to paper cones / diaphragms.
You can use thin aluminium foil from the gold smith and the glue they sell (in german "Anlegemilch") for making sandwich cones with polypropylene loudspeaker cones as here normal glue will not work. Also for delicate whizzer cones the thin aluminium foil from the goldsmith will be a better choice.
More information on this concerning loudspeaker history and theory in this thread and my post:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...cone-speaker-cone-profile.402470/post-7432593
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The backside of the cone is more difficult to access - but you can do it DIY.
You can cover the complete backside or only the area you are able to access.
With more experience you can reach all places - also on the back side but it needs some practice.
Here you see a Beyma 8 ag/n driver.
You can cover the complete backside or only the area you are able to access.
With more experience you can reach all places - also on the back side but it needs some practice.
Here you see a Beyma 8 ag/n driver.
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Here you can see a more delicate work with thin foil from the goldsmith.
In german this metal foil is call "Schlagmetall" - means "beaten metal".
Correctly they call it "beaten aluminium" - in german "Schlagaluminium".
The driver has been tweaked / tuned with a double magnet and a little paper box filled with dry sand on its back working against resonances of the driver.
The dustcap was ventilated with a hot soldering iron.
Here you can see the work with this thin aluminium foil on a tweeter in a PA loudspeaker - its worth to watch the complete thread written by me to see how I did the sandwich Diy work on a big driver.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/tuning-tweaking-of-bp-115-a.375464/page-2#post-7403173
In german this metal foil is call "Schlagmetall" - means "beaten metal".
Correctly they call it "beaten aluminium" - in german "Schlagaluminium".
The driver has been tweaked / tuned with a double magnet and a little paper box filled with dry sand on its back working against resonances of the driver.
The dustcap was ventilated with a hot soldering iron.
Here you can see the work with this thin aluminium foil on a tweeter in a PA loudspeaker - its worth to watch the complete thread written by me to see how I did the sandwich Diy work on a big driver.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/tuning-tweaking-of-bp-115-a.375464/page-2#post-7403173
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Here some loudspeakers I did this aluminium tweaking - tuning which can be done by yourself.
You see: 18 inch bass driver with aluminium foil for sauna construction - approximately 3x thicker than household aluminium foil.
10cm car hifi driver
Saba Greencones with aluminized cones
A round loudspeaker sphere with alu foiled drivers.
You see: 18 inch bass driver with aluminium foil for sauna construction - approximately 3x thicker than household aluminium foil.
10cm car hifi driver
Saba Greencones with aluminized cones
A round loudspeaker sphere with alu foiled drivers.
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Measurements show that the frequency response does change but not so much as expected.
The biggest change concerns stability of the cone and therefore impulse response becomes better and resonances are tamed.
This can be easily tested in an A / B listening test tweaking first only one driver and then make a comparison with the balance knob on your amplifier and a mono recording changing fastly from A to B and back.
In my eyes aluminizing a cone is the most effective single tweak you can do DIY on a simple paper cone driver.
As the paper cone gives you damping this aluminium reduces resonances and makes the driver sound like much more expensive sandwich cones.
Here you see Fostex FE 208 sigma with aluminiumized dustcap
You can see on a small fullrange driver a copper / faraday ring on the pole piece - this reduces distortion and makes the high frequencies louder.
The biggest change concerns stability of the cone and therefore impulse response becomes better and resonances are tamed.
This can be easily tested in an A / B listening test tweaking first only one driver and then make a comparison with the balance knob on your amplifier and a mono recording changing fastly from A to B and back.
In my eyes aluminizing a cone is the most effective single tweak you can do DIY on a simple paper cone driver.
As the paper cone gives you damping this aluminium reduces resonances and makes the driver sound like much more expensive sandwich cones.
Here you see Fostex FE 208 sigma with aluminiumized dustcap
You can see on a small fullrange driver a copper / faraday ring on the pole piece - this reduces distortion and makes the high frequencies louder.
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18 inch bass project with one sided alu foil for more stability of big cones
Here you see more fotos and description - and the use of EQ for making a good suboofer
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...ow-off-my-new-18in-build.365764/#post-6711139
Here you see more fotos and description - and the use of EQ for making a good suboofer
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...ow-off-my-new-18in-build.365764/#post-6711139
Using full aluminim foil for a DIY whizzer cone
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/how-to-make-a-whizzer-cone.398063/
Here the no name driver I was tweaking.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/how-to-make-a-whizzer-cone.398063/
Here the no name driver I was tweaking.
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Where to get thin aluminium foil as an example (=Noris Blattgold company, germany):
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/full-range-pics.87174/post-7262291
Some measurements before / after putting foil:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/acoustic-research-ar-7.156828/post-7177968
Thin aluminium foil as a sandwich for a 12cm fullrange driver with later added faraday ring on pole piece - DIY - I call it "50 cent trick":
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...fication-to-current-drive.389985/post-7197710
Sonab type loudspeaker "up firing" against a wall with aluminium paper aluminium DIY sandwich cone:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-firing-speakers.121385/page-175#post-6707993
Some more fotos of sandwich cones:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/full-range-pics.87174/post-6711011
Dsp corrected fullrange driver sandwiched with aluminium foil of thick quality - with measurements:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...w-distortion-with-a-2-way.334757/post-6711184
A thread I started - How to remove a Dustcap here on DIY Audio Forum:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/how-to-remove-a-dustcap.397165/#post-7300018
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/full-range-pics.87174/post-7262291
Some measurements before / after putting foil:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/acoustic-research-ar-7.156828/post-7177968
Thin aluminium foil as a sandwich for a 12cm fullrange driver with later added faraday ring on pole piece - DIY - I call it "50 cent trick":
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...fication-to-current-drive.389985/post-7197710
Sonab type loudspeaker "up firing" against a wall with aluminium paper aluminium DIY sandwich cone:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...-firing-speakers.121385/page-175#post-6707993
Some more fotos of sandwich cones:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/full-range-pics.87174/post-6711011
Dsp corrected fullrange driver sandwiched with aluminium foil of thick quality - with measurements:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...w-distortion-with-a-2-way.334757/post-6711184
A thread I started - How to remove a Dustcap here on DIY Audio Forum:
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/how-to-remove-a-dustcap.397165/#post-7300018
Sometimes there was the question if a sandwich cone is really necessary.
If you cover only one side - the front side - of a loudspeaker cone the sound becomes much better. I would guess you get already 80% of the possible sound.
With the second layer on the back side - as sandwich technology - the loudspeaker gets the maximum profit out of this tweak. This second layer is mostly audible in the bass.
Example of a classical fullrange for tube radios. Got an extra double magnet.
If you cover only one side - the front side - of a loudspeaker cone the sound becomes much better. I would guess you get already 80% of the possible sound.
With the second layer on the back side - as sandwich technology - the loudspeaker gets the maximum profit out of this tweak. This second layer is mostly audible in the bass.
Example of a classical fullrange for tube radios. Got an extra double magnet.
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I am a big fan of the Leak Sandwich loudspeakers
Some information on its construction:
https://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Leak_Sandwich_600
https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/leak-sandwich_topic1121.html
https://44bx.com/leak/sandwich.html
Here from the forum - nice to find it!
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/leak-sandwich-600-project.212632/
Some information on its construction:
https://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Leak_Sandwich_600
https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/leak-sandwich_topic1121.html
https://44bx.com/leak/sandwich.html
Here from the forum - nice to find it!
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/leak-sandwich-600-project.212632/
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I like this one
In the other photo, the immense stiffness of the Sandwich cone material is demonstrated by placing 100 half-pennies on it, and comparing it to paper cone material of the same weight with just one half-penny.
In the other photo, the immense stiffness of the Sandwich cone material is demonstrated by placing 100 half-pennies on it, and comparing it to paper cone material of the same weight with just one half-penny.
Putting household aluminium foil on Fane Sovereign 15-300tc aka FC-152F01-TC
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Now two Fane fullrange drivers are covered with metal foil. Whizzer cones will be done, too.
And the backside.
And the backside.
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First pics from the back side.
Ordered same size magnet for compensating efficiency loss due to more mass.
Ordered same size magnet for compensating efficiency loss due to more mass.
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Fostex FE208sigma old generation drivers (year 2000).
Cone with thin aluminium foil sandwich.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/full-range-speaker-photo-gallery.65061/post-7380591
Cone with thin aluminium foil sandwich.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/full-range-speaker-photo-gallery.65061/post-7380591
Some asked me if gold foil works.
Never tried it as it is technically worse than alu.
Bronze foil could be the choice and I tried it. Similar look to gold.
Never tried titan foil. Did not find thin enough quality and it is more difficult to work with.
Barlow used duraluminium sheets of thick quality. Works only for straight comes. Not for Navi ones.
I like the space age look of aluminum.
Never tried it as it is technically worse than alu.
Bronze foil could be the choice and I tried it. Similar look to gold.
Never tried titan foil. Did not find thin enough quality and it is more difficult to work with.
Barlow used duraluminium sheets of thick quality. Works only for straight comes. Not for Navi ones.
I like the space age look of aluminum.
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