A'af,
I'll send mind back to you in a couple days time. Does the return address is on the envelope you sent to me. If not, pls advise.
Pls take your time to do the refund to me. Anyway, thank you for all your effort.
I'll send mind back to you in a couple days time. Does the return address is on the envelope you sent to me. If not, pls advise.
Pls take your time to do the refund to me. Anyway, thank you for all your effort.
Hi A'af,
My devices are on the way back to you too, with a request to only refund the costs for the J-Fets alone. I will stand the postage and PayPal costs, myself.
I am sorry that matters ended up like this, and it must have been an unhappy time for you around Christmas.
Assuming everyone gets refunds, please let us know what the total and final 'out-of pocket' losses to you have been in this unfortunate matter. I will be pleased to make a contribution, probably based on my number of devices in ratio to the GB total, because I think this is only fair to you as I believe that you acted in good faith.
As I said from the beginning, I was sure you weren't a witting party to this scam, and your recent actions have confirmed this to us. I also said that this could have happened to anyone trying to help others in similar way, and I am now sure that you won't send any devices out in future without ascertaining that they are authentic.
I am sure this has been a very hard lesson for you.
Kind regards,
My devices are on the way back to you too, with a request to only refund the costs for the J-Fets alone. I will stand the postage and PayPal costs, myself.
I am sorry that matters ended up like this, and it must have been an unhappy time for you around Christmas.
Assuming everyone gets refunds, please let us know what the total and final 'out-of pocket' losses to you have been in this unfortunate matter. I will be pleased to make a contribution, probably based on my number of devices in ratio to the GB total, because I think this is only fair to you as I believe that you acted in good faith.
As I said from the beginning, I was sure you weren't a witting party to this scam, and your recent actions have confirmed this to us. I also said that this could have happened to anyone trying to help others in similar way, and I am now sure that you won't send any devices out in future without ascertaining that they are authentic.
I am sure this has been a very hard lesson for you.
Kind regards,
Just to let you know that I got my refund for 20 devices. I'm happy to be refund so rapidly.
A'af I will send you back my parts today.
As well: "please let us know what the total and final 'out-of pocket' losses to you have been in this unfortunate matter. I will be pleased to make a contribution, probably based on my number of devices in ratio to the GB total, because I think this is only fair to you as I believe that you acted in good faith"
Thanks again for the lightning fast refund and help solving this problem. Look forward to buy from you again in the future.
A'af I will send you back my parts today.
As well: "please let us know what the total and final 'out-of pocket' losses to you have been in this unfortunate matter. I will be pleased to make a contribution, probably based on my number of devices in ratio to the GB total, because I think this is only fair to you as I believe that you acted in good faith"
Thanks again for the lightning fast refund and help solving this problem. Look forward to buy from you again in the future.
I've received my 20 jfet today (10+10)
I'll send them back to you this week end.
I want a refund for the cost of the 20 jfet. Thanks
I'll send them back to you this week end.
I want a refund for the cost of the 20 jfet. Thanks
No. I only specified in private e-mail that I want to recuperate the cost of the parts (not the shipping and the paypal fees).
I don't know the specifics on how A'af is working things out, if he has a list or something, but I trust he will do his part to the end - given some reasonable time...
I don't know the specifics on how A'af is working things out, if he has a list or something, but I trust he will do his part to the end - given some reasonable time...
My5x...
Really!! I dont have to say now, seems somebody is going to far!!!
I overheard somebody already report to police authority about this!!
Have word very annoying and as you know, seems half their lives is depend on this JFET's
From the very first start, is just asking about refund.. refund.. refund.. and seems very like to talked about scam, fraud, or whatever you ussually done huh??
but this message i got it from paypal when i want do the refund!!
"Currently PayPal accounts in Croatia are only able to send payments. This recipient is not eligible to receive funds."
Ok now, what the way you choose to got your money back!!
Hope after this, all member here, esp in this thread, know what kind of people are you...
all the best,
a'af
PS: and just FYI, i already paid double to this bad parts!! I use my personal money to do the refund!! and until now, I dont even got a cents from my supplyer!! and i still not a rush like you... 😉
Really!! I dont have to say now, seems somebody is going to far!!!
I overheard somebody already report to police authority about this!!
Have word very annoying and as you know, seems half their lives is depend on this JFET's
From the very first start, is just asking about refund.. refund.. refund.. and seems very like to talked about scam, fraud, or whatever you ussually done huh??
but this message i got it from paypal when i want do the refund!!
"Currently PayPal accounts in Croatia are only able to send payments. This recipient is not eligible to receive funds."
Ok now, what the way you choose to got your money back!!
Hope after this, all member here, esp in this thread, know what kind of people are you...
all the best,
a'af
PS: and just FYI, i already paid double to this bad parts!! I use my personal money to do the refund!! and until now, I dont even got a cents from my supplyer!! and i still not a rush like you... 😉
A'af said:
Just an observer but felt compelled to post a reply after following events.
Aa'f I think you've handled this as best and as quickly as is humanly possible. To consider that the refunds being made at the moment are coming out of your own pocket speaks volumes about your personal character and integrity. I imagine that is quite a financial burden - it certainly would be for me!
We all go through life buying services and products and never do we question them until something goes wrong. Its the manner in which these problems are resolved that reveals far more about the individual/company than the service or product itself.
Its also good to see how mature, understanding and well mannered the vast majority of DIY'ers involved in this transaction are. I think all casual observers here(myself included) could learn a thing or two from you lot.
That's saddening. Don't let this dissuade you from the good work your doing.
A'af, you are accusing me without even having the decency to contact me first. As you know, I have been in contact with your pal Juang all the time and informed him promptly of all my thoughts and intentions. I don't know who reported you to the police (if that's even true) but I would have certainly informed Juang if it had been me. But it wasn't me. At least not yet. I don't have anything to hide or lie about and that's a well known fact around here.
Yes, thank you, I do want my refund. You cannot deposit any new money into my account. You can only use the PayPal refund feature that Chad (hifiZen) told you about. It is also cheaper for you. You can use the refund feature only from the account to which my payment was originally made (Evi Suryawati; g1_jan3 at hotmail.com). If you are trying to refund me from some other account it will not work. So, use the account of Evi Suryawati to refund me via PayPal.
You could have asked me about this first. I wrote to Juang earlier today but got no response. I guess you just needed to retaliate a little. That's alright.
I'm expecting my refund as promised by you and Juang. I will report here if and when I get it.
Regards,
Milan
Yes, thank you, I do want my refund. You cannot deposit any new money into my account. You can only use the PayPal refund feature that Chad (hifiZen) told you about. It is also cheaper for you. You can use the refund feature only from the account to which my payment was originally made (Evi Suryawati; g1_jan3 at hotmail.com). If you are trying to refund me from some other account it will not work. So, use the account of Evi Suryawati to refund me via PayPal.
You could have asked me about this first. I wrote to Juang earlier today but got no response. I guess you just needed to retaliate a little. That's alright.
I'm expecting my refund as promised by you and Juang. I will report here if and when I get it.
Regards,
Milan
Accusing from either side doesn't seem productive, if in fact accusations is even the right word.
Things are going as well as can be expected, let's keep in the direction we are now. It seems to be the most likely one to benefit all involved in this group buy, not just the noisiest.
A'af I urge you to put all of your efforts into returning funds, as that is the only thing which will bring this to a rapid conclusion so that we can all move on..
Variac
Things are going as well as can be expected, let's keep in the direction we are now. It seems to be the most likely one to benefit all involved in this group buy, not just the noisiest.
A'af I urge you to put all of your efforts into returning funds, as that is the only thing which will bring this to a rapid conclusion so that we can all move on..
Variac
Thanks Chief 
I'll do my best
Saturday 5 january (noon): i first met my supplyer (actually friend) to talk about this!!
Sunday 6 january (allday): I checked all the info and of course go to church, this is a first sunday in 2008 huh?? 😎
Monday 7 january : talk again to my supplyer and just for now, i have the final reply from him and the best way to solve all this!
thursday 8 january: go to bank to fill up the tank, and night the refund is start and someone already received the fund!!
Am I not so fast???
all the best,
a'af
"They may have been even custom-made for this specific group buy (which could also explain why we had to choose between BL and V grades)" >>> I'm not very thats sohpisticated, i just like an ordinary man... really i dont have thats brilliant idea!!
and send them out, to make you HAPPY???
I'll do my best
Saturday 5 january (noon): i first met my supplyer (actually friend) to talk about this!!
Sunday 6 january (allday): I checked all the info and of course go to church, this is a first sunday in 2008 huh?? 😎
Monday 7 january : talk again to my supplyer and just for now, i have the final reply from him and the best way to solve all this!
thursday 8 january: go to bank to fill up the tank, and night the refund is start and someone already received the fund!!
Am I not so fast???
all the best,
a'af
"They may have been even custom-made for this specific group buy (which could also explain why we had to choose between BL and V grades)" >>> I'm not very thats sohpisticated, i just like an ordinary man... really i dont have thats brilliant idea!!
and send them out, to make you HAPPY???
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