Oh Baby! from Parts Express (This is a Subwoofer?)
(running fullrange woofer plus tweeter - 1st, 2nd or 3rd order xover.
GRS 8SW-4, 8" Poly Cone Subwoofer- 4 ohm
https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-8SW-4-8-Poly-Cone-Subwoofer-4-Ohm-292-480?quantity=1
spec sheet
https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-8SW-4-8-Poly-Cone-Subwoofer-4-Ohm-292-480?quantity=1
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https://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/tech-talk-forum/1489532-le-petite-sarcophage-r2
from post #10
08-17-2022, 05:45 AM
It's no Revelator, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to the 1K I used here. Pair it with something like the Beast Mode tweeter in a 6 or 8 inch waveguide and it would make a cool, cheap large 2-way.
from post # 12
08-18-2022, 09:47 AM
DrewsBrews
Attached are in-box measurement of the woofer. One is distortion the other is gated. As I said, I wouldn't be afraid to use it all the way to 1K. It might even do well as an old school 2-way using the top end roll off as the crossover.
Sorry for potato quality pictures but its all I have (I think).
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GRS 8SW, 8" Subwoofer
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/basic-subwoofer/
1.8 cuft box 5/8" 26"x16.5x9.5 Sealed
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Old school? Like Boston Acoustics, Snell, Dynaco?
If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
(running fullrange woofer plus tweeter - 1st, 2nd or 3rd order xover.
GRS 8SW-4, 8" Poly Cone Subwoofer- 4 ohm
https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-8SW-4-8-Poly-Cone-Subwoofer-4-Ohm-292-480?quantity=1
spec sheet
https://www.parts-express.com/GRS-8SW-4-8-Poly-Cone-Subwoofer-4-Ohm-292-480?quantity=1
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https://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/tech-talk-forum/1489532-le-petite-sarcophage-r2
from post #10
08-17-2022, 05:45 AM
It's no Revelator, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to the 1K I used here. Pair it with something like the Beast Mode tweeter in a 6 or 8 inch waveguide and it would make a cool, cheap large 2-way.
from post # 12
08-18-2022, 09:47 AM
DrewsBrews
Attached are in-box measurement of the woofer. One is distortion the other is gated. As I said, I wouldn't be afraid to use it all the way to 1K. It might even do well as an old school 2-way using the top end roll off as the crossover.
Sorry for potato quality pictures but its all I have (I think).
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GRS 8SW, 8" Subwoofer
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/basic-subwoofer/
1.8 cuft box 5/8" 26"x16.5x9.5 Sealed
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Old school? Like Boston Acoustics, Snell, Dynaco?
If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
Johnny Richards- PE Board
from post #10
08-17-2022, 05:45 AM
It's no Revelator, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to the 1K I used here. Pair it with something like the Beast Mode tweeter in a 6 or 8 inch waveguide and it would make a cool, cheap large 2-way.
Beast Mode Tweeter? Peerless DX25
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/...mphany-tweeters-comparison-bc25-vs-dx25/page2
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MTG Designs
https://www.mtg-designs.com/diy-speaker-plans/flex-8
https://www.mtg-designs.com/diy-speaker-plans/flex-8/flex-8-grs
"I am glad I tested all the woofers I had as it resulted in one making the cut that I didn't even consider initially, the GRS 8SW-4. The 8SW-4 has smooth frequency response up past 2 kHz which was totally unexpected since it is labeled as a subwoofer. Funny how it's actually better suited for 2-way designs and has a smoother frequency response then any of GRS's other 8" woofers."
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GRS 8SW, 8" Subwoofer
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/basic-subwoofer/
1.8 cuft box 5/8" 26"x16.5x9.5 Sealed
(+ Tweeter + (add for ear height) Stands 9" + 26 (35"x16.5x9.5 sealed)
or build a empty bottom section
like this
https://www.seas.no/index.php?optio...s-aphel-kit&catid=66:seas-diy-kits&Itemid=345
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OH Baby! So many options.
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
from post #10
08-17-2022, 05:45 AM
It's no Revelator, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it to the 1K I used here. Pair it with something like the Beast Mode tweeter in a 6 or 8 inch waveguide and it would make a cool, cheap large 2-way.
Beast Mode Tweeter? Peerless DX25
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/...mphany-tweeters-comparison-bc25-vs-dx25/page2
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MTG Designs
https://www.mtg-designs.com/diy-speaker-plans/flex-8
https://www.mtg-designs.com/diy-speaker-plans/flex-8/flex-8-grs
"I am glad I tested all the woofers I had as it resulted in one making the cut that I didn't even consider initially, the GRS 8SW-4. The 8SW-4 has smooth frequency response up past 2 kHz which was totally unexpected since it is labeled as a subwoofer. Funny how it's actually better suited for 2-way designs and has a smoother frequency response then any of GRS's other 8" woofers."
=======
GRS 8SW, 8" Subwoofer
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/basic-subwoofer/
1.8 cuft box 5/8" 26"x16.5x9.5 Sealed
(+ Tweeter + (add for ear height) Stands 9" + 26 (35"x16.5x9.5 sealed)
or build a empty bottom section
like this
https://www.seas.no/index.php?optio...s-aphel-kit&catid=66:seas-diy-kits&Itemid=345
---
OH Baby! So many options.
-----
If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
Attachments
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Present day:
Devore Orangutan 0/93 nice plywood baffle
DEvore 0/93 Dimensions: 35.5″h x 15″w x 10″d
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Past days (before Devore)- some floor standing speakers:
Found locally on Kijiji
Coincidentally (?), similar size.
Pioneer CSG7000
35.5"h x 15" w x 11 5/8 d
Kenwood Speakers
36" h x 15" w x 11" d
Infinity SM122 Tower speakers
35.5"h x 15" w x 13" d
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One could acquire (reuse) an old 35" x 15" x ? speaker. Figure out your box volume requirements. Add braces, damping, stuffing, new front baffle (wood? paint?)
One could even make a 35.5″h x 15″w x 10″d box.
Example of a painted baffle-
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
Devore Orangutan 0/93 nice plywood baffle
DEvore 0/93 Dimensions: 35.5″h x 15″w x 10″d
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Past days (before Devore)- some floor standing speakers:
Found locally on Kijiji
Coincidentally (?), similar size.
Pioneer CSG7000
35.5"h x 15" w x 11 5/8 d
Kenwood Speakers
36" h x 15" w x 11" d
Infinity SM122 Tower speakers
35.5"h x 15" w x 13" d
------
One could acquire (reuse) an old 35" x 15" x ? speaker. Figure out your box volume requirements. Add braces, damping, stuffing, new front baffle (wood? paint?)
One could even make a 35.5″h x 15″w x 10″d box.
Example of a painted baffle-
-----
If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
Attachments
My SEAS FA22 build used a KEF Calinda box with a plywood baffle so w could repurpose it.
Currently playing downstairs with a KingRex/ACA combo.
dave
Funny- $1000 pr - Oak Stands (go to the High School woodshop, "Hey kid copy these...." )
Devore Orangutan O/Baby
Dimensions: 35" (889mm) H × 14.75" (375mm) W × 9.75" (248mm) D (including stands).
https://theaudiobeatnik.com/devore-fidelity-orangutan-o-baby-speakers-review/
"Like the O/96s, the O/Baby speakers need stands. They are $5,600 without stands. You can use them with any 12-inch stands, or you can get solid oaks stands from DeVore Fidelity, that is a mix of Japanese and mid-century modern. While these are expensive at $1,000, when combined with the speakers, they make for a very eye-popping look."
Here's a less expensive alternative:
(a little wider)
Plus
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
Devore Orangutan O/Baby
Dimensions: 35" (889mm) H × 14.75" (375mm) W × 9.75" (248mm) D (including stands).
https://theaudiobeatnik.com/devore-fidelity-orangutan-o-baby-speakers-review/
"Like the O/96s, the O/Baby speakers need stands. They are $5,600 without stands. You can use them with any 12-inch stands, or you can get solid oaks stands from DeVore Fidelity, that is a mix of Japanese and mid-century modern. While these are expensive at $1,000, when combined with the speakers, they make for a very eye-popping look."
Here's a less expensive alternative:
(a little wider)
8-in W x 8-in H x 16-in L Concrete Block Cored Concrete Block
$2.98 cdn Lowes
Plus
4-in W x 8-in H x 16-in L Concrete Block Concrete Block
$4.32 cdn Lowes
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
Faital 10FE200 running fullrange plus tweeter- minimal crossover
https://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ak_ob1_e.html
(additional info (post #7))
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
https://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ak_ob1_e.html
(additional info (post #7))
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
a front baffle (post #23) redo example-
Or biscuits, dowels, glue, etc.
http://woggmusic.com/supernova-minimus-speaker-build/
Threaded Inserts
Or biscuits, dowels, glue, etc.
http://woggmusic.com/supernova-minimus-speaker-build/
Threaded Inserts
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PI Speakers - alternatives.
These speakers have the SAME crossover. 1Pi & 2Pi (woofers are not running full range-Not Clones of Devore)
https://audioroundtable.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=92680&&srch=1+2+pi+crossover+same#msg_92680
per Wayne P. message 92679 , "The one pi and two pi use the same crossover and tweeter, but the midwoofer, box and port are different."
Paint Job
https://audioroundtable.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=50705&&srch=derek+pi+one#msg_50705
Paint job was done with gloss paint and a roller!!!!
Eminence Alpha 8A (8" larger than a Devore o/baby 7"Seas)
Eminence Alpha 10A (10" Eminence different manufacturer vs 10" Seas A26)
Walton Pi Studio One Towers
https://web.archive.org/web/20071029171747/http://iol.ie/~waltonaudio/pione.html
Cabinet to your liking, example- Wide body looks good, built with a Nice plywood baffle and black sides.
https://pispeakers.com/Prices.html
https://www.pispeakers.com/Measurements/onePi.html
https://pispeakers.com/Measurements/twoPi_tower.html
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Wolf's Zingers Dayton SD215-88 & Peerless DA25BG08-06
8" Dayton SD215-88 vs 7"Seas woofers.
Peerless DA25BD08-06- NLA- find a substitute.
post #13
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/2-way-budget-bookshelf-drivers-recommendation.354425/
https://meniscusaudio.com/product/zingers-speaker-kit/
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
These speakers have the SAME crossover. 1Pi & 2Pi (woofers are not running full range-Not Clones of Devore)
https://audioroundtable.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=92680&&srch=1+2+pi+crossover+same#msg_92680
per Wayne P. message 92679 , "The one pi and two pi use the same crossover and tweeter, but the midwoofer, box and port are different."
Paint Job
https://audioroundtable.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&goto=50705&&srch=derek+pi+one#msg_50705
Paint job was done with gloss paint and a roller!!!!
Eminence Alpha 8A (8" larger than a Devore o/baby 7"Seas)
Eminence Alpha 10A (10" Eminence different manufacturer vs 10" Seas A26)
Walton Pi Studio One Towers
https://web.archive.org/web/20071029171747/http://iol.ie/~waltonaudio/pione.html
Cabinet to your liking, example- Wide body looks good, built with a Nice plywood baffle and black sides.
https://pispeakers.com/Prices.html
https://www.pispeakers.com/Measurements/onePi.html
https://pispeakers.com/Measurements/twoPi_tower.html
--
Wolf's Zingers Dayton SD215-88 & Peerless DA25BG08-06
8" Dayton SD215-88 vs 7"Seas woofers.
Peerless DA25BD08-06- NLA- find a substitute.
post #13
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/2-way-budget-bookshelf-drivers-recommendation.354425/
https://meniscusaudio.com/product/zingers-speaker-kit/
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
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continued, from post #28
8" Eminence Alpha 8A Pi One -Walton Tower
Pionet Cabinet dimensions - diyAudio
"Cabinet is 2 cubic foot and is tuned to approx 50hz by means of a 4" x 4" port. Window braces are used in the upper and lower sections. There is also horizontal braces behind the driver and just above the port that are fixed at 45 degrees. Finally, a couple more braces are also added to the rear wall opposite the port. Internal damping is 2" fibreglass on one wall and the back and 4" top and bottom. The addition of a felt surround around the tweeter smoothes the top just a little."
2.19 cu ft or 62.2litres
Adjust box dimensions for a wide body.
example
hwd 36"x13x11 (3/4" material)= 2.18 cuft or 61.73 litres- add braces
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A Wide Body, 7" Seas CA22RNY Kit- looks Nice but no NIce plywood baffle.
https://www.seas.no/images/stories/diykits/aphel/DIY_kit_SEAS_Aphel.pdf
"The enclosure was chosen to be a big 55L box with a wide baffle and a port tuned to 36Hz.
1.95 cuft 55 litres, hwd 860mmx330x280 or @34”x13x11
Port D 70mm x L 60mm
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
8" Eminence Alpha 8A Pi One -Walton Tower
Pionet Cabinet dimensions - diyAudio
"Cabinet is 2 cubic foot and is tuned to approx 50hz by means of a 4" x 4" port. Window braces are used in the upper and lower sections. There is also horizontal braces behind the driver and just above the port that are fixed at 45 degrees. Finally, a couple more braces are also added to the rear wall opposite the port. Internal damping is 2" fibreglass on one wall and the back and 4" top and bottom. The addition of a felt surround around the tweeter smoothes the top just a little."
2.19 cu ft or 62.2litres
Adjust box dimensions for a wide body.
example
hwd 36"x13x11 (3/4" material)= 2.18 cuft or 61.73 litres- add braces
------
A Wide Body, 7" Seas CA22RNY Kit- looks Nice but no NIce plywood baffle.
https://www.seas.no/images/stories/diykits/aphel/DIY_kit_SEAS_Aphel.pdf
"The enclosure was chosen to be a big 55L box with a wide baffle and a port tuned to 36Hz.
1.95 cuft 55 litres, hwd 860mmx330x280 or @34”x13x11
Port D 70mm x L 60mm
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
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The Seas 27TBFC/G was used in swap for version 2, and nothing was changed. Sonics were favorably similar.
Looking for alternative speaker boxes. For reuse Post #23 & #27
from post #7
Devore Orangutan 0/96 (short speaker with stands)
$20,975.84 CAD
Dimensions: 35.5″h x 18″w x 12″d including stands
The cabinet measures 28.25" high x18" w x 12" d
-
https://www.humanspeakers.com/e/epi-te320.htm
similar size-EPI Time/Energy 320
hwd 29x17x10.5
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Devore Orangutan 0/93 (tall speaker- no stands)
$11,635.65 CAD
Dimensions: 35.5″hx15wx10d
Similar size cabinets see Post # 23
(looks like click flooring)
Audiosphere Reaserch Monitor 100
hwd?
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If anyone comes across similar size cabinets please post them. Thank You
------------------
If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
from post #7
Devore Orangutan 0/96 (short speaker with stands)
$20,975.84 CAD
Dimensions: 35.5″h x 18″w x 12″d including stands
The cabinet measures 28.25" high x18" w x 12" d
-
https://www.humanspeakers.com/e/epi-te320.htm
similar size-EPI Time/Energy 320
hwd 29x17x10.5
====
Devore Orangutan 0/93 (tall speaker- no stands)
$11,635.65 CAD
Dimensions: 35.5″hx15wx10d
Similar size cabinets see Post # 23
(looks like click flooring)
Audiosphere Reaserch Monitor 100
hwd?
========
If anyone comes across similar size cabinets please post them. Thank You
------------------
If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
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This might be the cheapest 8" alternative woofer for a wide body look:
a wide body speaker
(GASP MCM) woofer running fullrange possibile?
MCM 55-2960 8" not a 7" Seas
from Mike Chua
https://ampslab-spk.com/2018/04/27/mcm-55-2960/
looks like a built in BBC dip
Mid-Bass (80Hz-125Hz) – Dynamic. Detail. Tight. No Bloom.
Low Bass (40Hz) – Audible. No Bloom.
Vocals (125Hz upwards) – Sounds Flat. No audible peaks.
Bass and Vocals Balance – Good. Bass doesn’t over-power voices.
Suitable for PA and even HiFi. Fantastic value for $15.21.
Updated on Dec 8, 2023"
Orangutan O/baby 23x14.75 x9.75 = 1.36 cu ft / 38.5 litres (12” tall stand +=35"h)
Ampslab hwd 20x13x9 .92 cuft or 26 litres, Port 2”D x 6.5 L
box examples:
hwd 23’x13x9 1.07 cuft or 30 litres
hwd 22x13x9 1.02 cuft or 29 litres
*hwd 23x13x8 .93 cuft or 26 litres
*hwd 23x13.5x8 .97 cuft or 27 litres
crossover @ 4500 hz
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Crossover ideas:
@ 4500 hz (adjust - L-pad etc)
https://ampslab.com/oriole.htm
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/speaker-project-gallery/67808-low-cost-3-line-array/page8
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/pro-audio/the-vintages/
Audiopur RT7040 Planar tweeter
https://theaudiocrafts.com/soundtouch-ribbon-tweeter-rbnt1-pair
Russia post #19 crossover 4500 hz
https://forum.vegalab.ru/showthread.php?t=79335
Don HighEnd
https://www.donhighend.de/?page_id=8442
Maybelle Audio-Vietnam
https://linhkienloadai-vn.translate...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Audiopur RT7040
post#7 sound clip
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index...-a-new-speaker-and-starting-the-build.832570/
https://player.vimeo.com/video/226746718
With a crossover
https://ampslab-spk.com/2018/05/30/mcm-55-2960-pyle-pds442/
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
a wide body speaker
(GASP MCM) woofer running fullrange possibile?
MCM 55-2960 8" not a 7" Seas
from Mike Chua
https://ampslab-spk.com/2018/04/27/mcm-55-2960/
looks like a built in BBC dip
"MCM 55-2960 RAW Frequency Response
Ported Box = 25 liters. Baffle Width = 13.5″
May 23, 2018 – Preliminary Listening Test in 25 liters Ported Box. (Port Dia=2″. Length=6.50″)
No crossover is used. Audition with woofer in RAW state.Mid-Bass (80Hz-125Hz) – Dynamic. Detail. Tight. No Bloom.
Low Bass (40Hz) – Audible. No Bloom.
Vocals (125Hz upwards) – Sounds Flat. No audible peaks.
Bass and Vocals Balance – Good. Bass doesn’t over-power voices.
Conclusion
Despite the widely different Thiele & Small Parameters, the MCM 55-2960 sounds perfectly fine.Suitable for PA and even HiFi. Fantastic value for $15.21.
Updated on Dec 8, 2023"
Orangutan O/baby 23x14.75 x9.75 = 1.36 cu ft / 38.5 litres (12” tall stand +=35"h)
Ampslab hwd 20x13x9 .92 cuft or 26 litres, Port 2”D x 6.5 L
box examples:
hwd 23’x13x9 1.07 cuft or 30 litres
hwd 22x13x9 1.02 cuft or 29 litres
*hwd 23x13x8 .93 cuft or 26 litres
*hwd 23x13.5x8 .97 cuft or 27 litres
crossover @ 4500 hz
--
Crossover ideas:
@ 4500 hz (adjust - L-pad etc)
https://ampslab.com/oriole.htm
https://techtalk.parts-express.com/forum/speaker-project-gallery/67808-low-cost-3-line-array/page8
https://projectgallery.parts-express.com/pro-audio/the-vintages/
Audiopur RT7040 Planar tweeter
https://theaudiocrafts.com/soundtouch-ribbon-tweeter-rbnt1-pair
Russia post #19 crossover 4500 hz
https://forum.vegalab.ru/showthread.php?t=79335
Don HighEnd
https://www.donhighend.de/?page_id=8442
Maybelle Audio-Vietnam
https://linhkienloadai-vn.translate...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Audiopur RT7040
post#7 sound clip
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index...-a-new-speaker-and-starting-the-build.832570/
https://player.vimeo.com/video/226746718
With a crossover
https://ampslab-spk.com/2018/05/30/mcm-55-2960-pyle-pds442/
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
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$1000 usd pr of stands
https://theaudiobeatnik.com/devore-fidelity-orangutan-o-baby-speakers-review/
Not $1000 usd pr of stands-Custom-Handmade. Beautiful.
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
https://theaudiobeatnik.com/devore-fidelity-orangutan-o-baby-speakers-review/
Not $1000 usd pr of stands-Custom-Handmade. Beautiful.
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If you want to build a Devore Clone:
Devore Clone discussion
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/devore-orangutan-clone.272810/
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