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Here is another approach for stabilizing the FE FET bias current using a thermistor rather than using the optocoupler bias circuit. The schematic is shows the relevant piece of the FE circuit, where R1 is the bias adjustment pot, and R2, R3 and NTC are the added components for the thermistor stabilization of the bias current vs. temperature.
 

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Here is another approach for stabilizing the FE FET bias current using a thermistor rather than using the optocoupler bias circuit.

This is what I was planning to use, although I was a little ashamed to mention it since the thread seemed to be trending toward rather elaborate means of controlling bias...

Looks like my build is on hold at least until summer, though.
 
Not quite. The F5 circuit did not have a resistor in parallel with the thermistor, which is important for linearizing the thermistor behavior.

Of course. The idea is the same though. Look at F5 Turbo, you have a resistor in series and in parallel with the thermistor.
The correct resistor values and arrangement will depend on the thermal coefficient of Toshiba mosfets as you would already know. :)

I always claim Papa used his time machine to steal my ideas. :D
 
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From F5 Turbo, simply delete the degenerating resistors R17 and R18 and you have the modified circuit.
The principle is the same the resistor values/arrangement may need to be different.
 

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To get the optocoupler in the outputstage is an interesting task.
But without source resistors it is difficult to get the voltage for the LED.
Maybe the optocoupler is not so important in the OS but in the second stage where the thermal runaway is more present.

As far as I can say Lynn and me will do an optocoupler for the second stage in real soon.
And of course Jeff will come out with his brute force solution also soon. I am already eager to see what he will do.
 
yes , that's logical and best ......

however , I wouldn't use more than 0R1 there


I did use that size resistor and smaller but I had to use some op amps between them and the optos. That's the reason I used the op amps. I just didn't want to use so many parts. Also I don't know if it measures as well as this circuit. For some reason I had it in my head that much resistance wasn't to big.