Agree LL 1684 is the best I have heard in my life. But I have some very bad Hum problems with it.
Have you connected the ground of transformer secondary to DAC analog ground ?
This should be the last list until now:
1. adeveza: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (Complete Set: Item 6)
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
tot 14 DAC module and 18 output stage
1. adeveza: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (Complete Set: Item 6)
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
tot 14 DAC module and 18 output stage
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Some off the idea with transformers galvanic isolation will disappear.
The hum is loud. 🙁
I don't care about galvanic isolation if connecting grounds makes my speakers dead dead silent. 😀
I started with Mundorf RXF. Was really bad . Then Black Gate AC 47 uf . To much upper bass. Now it is Jantzen Red 15 uf. The Jantzen is very good.
According to calculations, measurements and listening 🙂 there is no need for more than 2u IMHO. Many times bigger than that kills speed, resolution and space, makes bass muddy, also adds colouration, at least in my system.
According to calculations, measurements and listening 🙂 there is no need for more than 2u IMHO. Many times bigger than that kills speed, resolution and space, makes bass muddy, also adds colouration, at least in my system.
Yes but Black Gates do that even if they are smaller . It is the sound off Black Gate I think. I used 30 uf Mundorf RXF and it was not muddy.
After some listen test I and Quanghao have decided to change the diamond output buffer with a single ended dc coupled mosfet stage.
Using this new output stage we can get a very pure sound near to LL1684 stage.
This output stage has been configurated with high bias current to drive any headphone and any cable.
Test and measurements still in progress.
Thats no balanced output in that version then?
1. adeveza: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (Complete Set: Item 6)
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
1. adeveza: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (Complete Set: Item 6)
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero + transformer
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero + transformer
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
quanghao/Audiodesign : Do you also provide the LL1684??
I might change the output stage to LL1684 if you provide them... because I have no desire to use it on headphone...
I might change the output stage to LL1684 if you provide them... because I have no desire to use it on headphone...
Hi what is the price for a finished and tested dac, and what is the price for a dac board.After some listen test I and Quanghao have decided to change the diamond output buffer with a single ended dc coupled mosfet stage.
Using this new output stage we can get a very pure sound near to LL1684 stage.
This output stage has been configurated with high bias current to drive any headphone and any cable.
Test and measurements still in progress.
Hi what is the price for a finished and tested dac, and what is the price for a dac board.
Hi
Check post #2
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1. adeveza: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (Complete Set: Item 6)
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero + transformer
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
24. frankwilker: DAC module + Amanero module
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero + transformer
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
24. frankwilker: DAC module + Amanero module
Complete dac (item 6)
15 PeterKD Complete dac (item 6)Numero 14 Number 14
Please add yourself to the list ...Please add me to the list
at this stage, you would be number 25 on the list, not number 15.
1. adeveza: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (Complete Set: Item 6)
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero + transformer
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
24. frankwilker: DAC module + Amanero module
25. NKL: DAC module + Amanero module
2. papapew: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
3. smokingdog: DAC module + output stage
4. gde3: DAC module + amanero + transformer
5. villanueva: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer (item6)
6. MattMax: output stage only
7. CAAD: output stage only
8. blackberry: output stage only
9. Mas Penk: DAC module + amanero + output stage + transformer + chassis
10. rade95: output stage + chassis
11. vmoreau : DAC Module
12. edbk : Complete dac (item 6) (tested before shipping please )
13. sandor: Complete DAC without output stage (option 6 without option
14. Erlend Sæterdal: Output stage only.
15. Colesey : complete dac (item 6) in silver please
16. claudio52: Output stage only
17. Nick F: Complete DAC (item 6)
18. xtomm: output stage onl
19. brgds: DAC + output stage + amanero
20. danny_66: output stage only
21. anjogi: amanero + DAC + output stage + transformer
22. CaféNoir: DAC module + amanero + output stage
23. Jazzbear: DAC module + output stage + transformer
24. frankwilker: DAC module + Amanero module
25. NKL: DAC module + Amanero module
Please add yourself to the list ...
at this stage, you would be number 25 on the list, not number 15.
I would but can not find the list ... sorry
Just copy the list from the last post and add your name.I would but can not find the list ... sorry
Very interested in your latest offering. Could you please clarify a few things for me?
* Could this new version be considered a "stable" offering which likely won't require re-programing or hardware modifications post-delivery?
* Will you be offering a LL1684 option, either in complete form or PCB?
* Could this new version be considered a "stable" offering which likely won't require re-programing or hardware modifications post-delivery?
* Will you be offering a LL1684 option, either in complete form or PCB?
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