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DAC-END R (ES9018) full assembled board - version 2

DAC-END R (ES9018) full assembled board - second group buy

After the great success the first version Quanghao opens this new group buy to produce a new series of DAC.

http://www.audiodesignguide.com/DAC32/index2.html

I can support you by email and chat until all will be happy for this project.

I do not take money from the production of these DAC.

Quanghao will produce these modules with little gain to promote this product, in the near future this DAC will be sold as a finished product at about 2500$ - 3000$.

This DAC ES9018 module have these features:

- top performance linear pre-regulator LT1963
- separated fast shunt for any digital section
- separated fast shunt for any analog channel
- remote volume control
- remote mute control
- remote input control
- digital filter control
- microcontroller to remap DAC to share I2S connection with DSD
- Amanero module integrated to have USB input
- Support 44,88,96,192,352,384KHz PCM and DSD to play SACD ISO
- ground isolation from USB module
- On board reference 100MHz Crystek oscillator with a jitter of 0.5psec
- 3 spdif input: coax RCA, Toslink optical and AES/EBU
- optional passive I/V
- 4 row x 20 characters LCD
- 5V LCD
- large dB volume display


This options are available and here the new cost:

1) DAC module assembled and tested with all components
- ES9018 chip,
- Crystek 100MHz top performances oscillator (CCHD-950-25-100),
- 5 shunt regulator
- All connectors
- 20x4 LCD
- Infrared remote command
- Amanero module not included
price 450$

2) Discrete differential no feedback output stage
- no feedback
- very low distortion because it work as current amplifier
- Vbe nonlinearity compensated using diamond buffer on output stage
- zero dc offset using dc servo loop
- variable voltage gain only changing a single resistor (I/V)
- 3 voltage amplification setting with jumps
- high output current to drive any low impedance headphone in pure class A
- high output voltage to drive any high impedance headphone
- very low output impedance to drive any cable
- both un-balanced and balanced output
- differential configuration to reduce common mode DAC errors
- output relay for the startup-up phase
- discrete high current shunt regulators
price 150$

3) Chassie
price 140$

4) Transformers, for the discrete output stage are used two r-core transformers, for the LL1684 output stage ony a toroidal trasformer is used.
price 40$ each

5) Amanero module
price 60$

6) LL1684 output stage (pcb, Clarity cap, LL1684)
price 420$

7) DAC controller 4x20 lcd to use with version 1
price 40$

8) Complete assembled DAC with the discrete differential output stage, this include the options 1,2,3,4,5
price 1000$

9) Complete assembled DAC with Lundahl LL1684 output stage, this include the options 1,3,4,5,6
price 1250$
 
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The prices for options:
1) DAC module assembled and tested with all components
ES9018 chip,
Crystek 100MHz top performances oscillator (CCHD-950-25-100),
five shunt regulator
all connectors
20x2 LCD
infrared remote command
(excluding Amanero module)
The price : 450 $

2) Discrete differential no feedback output stage
The price : 150 $

3) Chassie
The price : 100 $

4) R-Core transformer:
The price : 40 $

5) Amanero module:
The price : 60 $

6) Assembled DAC, this include option 1,2,3,4,5 (it is possible exclude option 2)
The price : 900 $


quanghao would like to thank you for your interest and invite you to register-list group purchased 32-bit DAC
 
Ah, I'm very interested in this.
Can you give us any details, please Quanghao?
Especially the unbalanced outputs - are they just one phase of the balanced outputs?
If so, is noise and distortion OK?

This circuit include a current differential amplifier so both the ES9018 outputs are considered to create the unbalanced output.

Noise zero and distortion less than 0.01% at the max output volume.

This output module could be used also for the first DAC-END R (ES9018) version.
 
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What is the difference between the version 1 that I have and the version 2 that you are now offering?

Here we start a new group buy, there are few differences.

1) discrete shunt regulators to reduce feedback and cost but always fast
2) discrete no-feedback output stage instead of op-amp
3) 20x4 LCD instead of 16x2 LCD to have more informations and big dB info

Like the previous we will create a first test environment before start the production for teh group buy.
 
Direct coupled Differential No feedback module

Here the block diagram of the new output stage, the main specifications:

- no feedback
- very low distortion because it work as current amplifier
- Vbe nonlinearity compensated using diamond buffer on output stage
- zero dc offset using dc servo loop
- variable voltage gain only changing a single resistor (I/V)
- high output current to drive any low impedance headphone in pure class A
- high output voltage to drive any high impedance headphone
- very low output impedance to drive any cable
- both un-balanced and balanced output
- differential configuration to reduce common mode DAC errors
 

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linuxfan

Member
2007-12-09 3:09 pm
Thanks Andrea.
One more question; on the first version of I/V output boards, apparently the shunt regs ran a bit hot, and I'm guessing this is likely to be the same with version 2.
If I was to install the version 2 boards, should I consider some form of thermal coupling to the sides of the chassis?
 
Thanks Andrea.
One more question; on the first version of I/V output boards, apparently the shunt regs ran a bit hot, and I'm guessing this is likely to be the same with version 2.
If I was to install the version 2 boards, should I consider some form of thermal coupling to the sides of the chassis?

See new post of this evening on the old group buy.

This new output stage have a complete new regulator with high current.

Probably this will use hi-end linear regulator LTxx instead of shunt.
 
New Here, Please Help

I am new here, but I have been reading about this DAC, so can someone please help me on how to go about in purchasing the kit? So far this is what I know, that there is a group buy, but not sure how to put myself in it, and how to go about in paying. Essentially, I am not very familiar in joining a group buy, I mean, on how to join in.

I am very much interested in this kit, please help me on how to purchase the kit.

Alex
 

gde3

Member
2013-03-01 1:52 pm
Hi audiodesign,
how do you compare this new discrete differential no feedback output stage with the LL1684 that you previously recommended as one of the best option?
Could the last firmware be considered final or there's still the necessity to buy a PICkit 2 programmer?

I have a couple of LL1690, I read the older thread but I couldn't find anyone who has tested those transformers with this dac. Do you think they could work in this project? I would like to save some money initially and upgrade to LL1684 in the future
http://www.lundahl.se/pdf/1690.pdf
 
Hi audiodesign,
how do you compare this new discrete differential no feedback output stage with the LL1684 that you previously recommended as one of the best option?
Could the last firmware be considered final or there's still the necessity to buy a PICkit 2 programmer?

I have a couple of LL1690, I read the older thread but I couldn't find anyone who has tested those transformers with this dac. Do you think they could work in this project? I would like to save some money initially and upgrade to LL1684 in the future

yes , you can use LL1690 sample LL1684!
thanks
 
Hi audiodesign,
how do you compare this new discrete differential no feedback output stage with the LL1684 that you previously recommended as one of the best option?
Could the last firmware be considered final or there's still the necessity to buy a PICkit 2 programmer?

I have a couple of LL1690, I read the older thread but I couldn't find anyone who has tested those transformers with this dac. Do you think they could work in this project? I would like to save some money initially and upgrade to LL1684 in the future
http://www.lundahl.se/pdf/1690.pdf

Yes, use without problems the LL1690