here... and here
just these parts...I guess...😀😉
"I don't know, actually... it depends on the plating I guess"
just these parts...I guess...😀😉
"I don't know, actually... it depends on the plating I guess"
Oups! My mistake....You're right 😀
I gotta read more careful. That's the second slip I've made in this thread.
Magura 🙂
Try starting out with: the process.
And to make matters worse, coating sure can compete with plating 😀
Magura 🙂
Ha ha, I prefer to listen to the thing rather than waste time reasoning on why it's better or why it's worse.
Yep...coating may be preferable 😱
My hi-fi dealer (of when I was "rich") taught me to trust my ears and not the forums or the press (too much).
Steve Eddy> Thanks for the offer about cotton insulation, it's times like these I hate living in Sweden.
According to the wite-up on copper ETP is the most common used Copper in these cases.
ETP also show imho very good Electrical Conductivity (% IACS), at most 1% less than 99.999%. 101.5 vs 102.5. (Silver is 106 iirc?)
So, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for ETC. Of course 99.999% would be better but I doubt there's any audiable difference.
Still, although I'm somewhat pessimistic about hearing differences I'm still open to the notion. I've always said "If it sounds better it is better", and it doesn't matter what the measurements say.
Psychoacustic research clearly proves we influence our percieved listening with preconceptions and visual input. As long as it enhances the listening experience I'm all for it.
According to the wite-up on copper ETP is the most common used Copper in these cases.
ETP also show imho very good Electrical Conductivity (% IACS), at most 1% less than 99.999%. 101.5 vs 102.5. (Silver is 106 iirc?)
So, I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for ETC. Of course 99.999% would be better but I doubt there's any audiable difference.
Still, although I'm somewhat pessimistic about hearing differences I'm still open to the notion. I've always said "If it sounds better it is better", and it doesn't matter what the measurements say.
Psychoacustic research clearly proves we influence our percieved listening with preconceptions and visual input. As long as it enhances the listening experience I'm all for it.
Now why would you make up something like that? You of all people know that's completely untrue.
more pathology
See.. there you go again... inaprpopriate projection of your insecurities upon others... psychologists call that transference 😀😀
here's some reading on the subject... since you're into that sort of thing...😉
Carl Jung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See.. there you go again... inaprpopriate projection of your insecurities upon others... psychologists call that transference 😀😀
here's some reading on the subject... since you're into that sort of thing...😉
Carl Jung - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I looove those guys. They have a comfortable definition for everything (that they think they understand). 😛 Sorry...this was offtopic.
what "we" do
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yep..some of "us guys" have been wildly successful all our lives whatever we do... probably because we only act on what we know, not just on what we think
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yep..some of "us guys" have been wildly successful all our lives whatever we do... probably because we only act on what we know, not just on what we think
Shipping to Sweden's not terribly expensive. I can send via Priority Mail International Flat Rate which is something like $10.95US.
Yup. Really, about the only reason there is oxygen free copper is because oxygenated ETP copper can become embrittled if it's heated in a reducing atmosphere like hydrogen. Not a situation likely to be encountered by an audio system. 😀
Yup.
No earthly reason for there to be.
That's pretty much how I approach it. At the end of the day, you might just as well say that ALL of our experience is purely psychological. So unless one is trying to prove some sort of objective claim, who cares? Just enjoy, whatever the reason may be.
HOLISTIC HEDONIST SUBJECTIVISTS OF THE WORLD UNITE! 😀
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Hey, another cable thread. Just what the world needs! 😀 You know I've always found that silver cable sounds brighter, and this seems to be a common criticism of this type of metal. Any suggestions why?
Exactly, who wants to worry with blind testing when just trying to enjoy some good sounds. If it sounds better, it sounds better ... no need to stress over it.
Exactly, who wants to worry with blind testing when just trying to enjoy some good sounds. If it sounds better, it sounds better ... no need to stress over it.
Let me remind you: "See.. there you go again... inappropriate projection of your insecurities upon others..."
Well... with sound, hearing leads to knowing, reasoning insteads leads to prejudices only... Maybe you know for yourself that you can't rely on your own hearing enough 🙂
Your second part answers your first- if you don't care why, then don't do a test. If you do care "why," the first test is to see if the difference is in the wire or in your brain.
Quite.
Speaking for myself, I really wish someone would actually do a test of the nature I outlined above. I haven't seen one yet, although perhaps I've missed something. I've certainly seen plenty of comparisons of wires differing from each other in almost every possible aspect, but if you actually want to have some genuinely valid comparisons, basic scientific methodology (to say nothing of raw common-sense) demands that only one variable is changed at a time to eliminate the possibility of something else contaminating the results. Without performing a test of that kind, it would seem impossible to be able to draw any conclusions about the alleged audibility of different conductor materials, let alone audible differences between various degrees of purity in the same basic conductor material.
Speaking for myself, I really wish someone would actually do a test of the nature I outlined above. I haven't seen one yet, although perhaps I've missed something. I've certainly seen plenty of comparisons of wires differing from each other in almost every possible aspect, but if you actually want to have some genuinely valid comparisons, basic scientific methodology (to say nothing of raw common-sense) demands that only one variable is changed at a time to eliminate the possibility of something else contaminating the results. Without performing a test of that kind, it would seem impossible to be able to draw any conclusions about the alleged audibility of different conductor materials, let alone audible differences between various degrees of purity in the same basic conductor material.
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