Build thread - building the Subbu DAC V3 SE

I've only had it running for 10 mins so no comment on the sound at this point,
I'm just pleased it works. I'm using it with a win 7 pc & Jriver mc, the sound was very distorted until i turned the volume down to 50% on Jriver, i'm not sure why. I'm using Wasapi & couldn't get it to work on Asio.

Ah, the blessings of pc audio. If more than 3 abbreviations are needed to connect a device I quit 😉

When connected to an SPDIF source the device should work just fine.
 
......I'm using it with a win 7 pc & Jriver mc, the sound was very distorted until i turned the volume down to 50% on Jriver, i'm not sure why. I'm using Wasapi & couldn't get it to work on Asio.....

Are you using ASIO4ALL? It is working on my system and the windows (JRiver) volume/drivers are completely gone. All volume adjustments via the Mackie Pre.

Did a little temp base to use during tests and tweaking. I'll let it run for a few more hours and then put it in the big system.
 

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I just tried asio4all & it's just the same as wasapi.
No distortion with sound format test in control panel-sounds,
Ok with wmp so it's a jriver problem, I'll check the Jriver forums.
I'll just leave the volume set to 50% for now,

I'm using Jriver internal volume & it's 64 bit so shouldn't deterioate the sound and the windows volume slider is bypassed.
 
"I'm using it with a win 7 pc & Jriver mc, the sound was very distorted until i turned the volume down to 50% on Jriver, i'm not sure why. I'm using Wasapi & couldn't get it to work on Asio."

Actually, I lied.🙁 What I did was switch to ASIO while playing music. The settings saved but didn't effect the output till I stopped and started the song again. I also checked the JRiver site and learned ASIO is considered somewhat outdated for use with Windows latest versions. WASAPI also disconnects the "W" garbage so I'm satisfied. The only thing I can't find in the new JR is the old kernel streaming mode which reportedly enhanced the signal a bit more.

This is all probably moot for most V3 builders unless they have a lot of 96.0 kHz and above music in digital form. I have an Oppo that will play SACD disks but all my HD tracks are stored on the server.

Congrats n_dori :up:
 
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Ah, the blessings of pc audio. If more than 3 abbreviations are needed to connect a device I quit 😉

When connected to an SPDIF source the device should work just fine.

Just to punch back a little - probably 90% of all modern quality music is mastered on Protools - that's just a big fancy PC with gizmos and plugins. Why not just eliminate all that silly disk and platter spinning and pipe directly into the master??? 😉😀😉
 
Good morning

Gents, what would be alternative to mouser in UK ?
RS seems to be more expensive and not a great choice
Farnell ? But it does send it from abroad and VAT calculated same as mouser ?

Farnell is UK based. Digikey is an alternative, but like Mouser sent from the States, so import duty to be paid on delivery. For the odd one off, jackhgib shop (Farnell ebay?) on eBay can be useful, not the cheapest but fast.
 
Is anyone having problems with hum using this DAC. It works perfectly with the Mackie pre and a pair of BrianGT LM3886 monoblock power amps. But when connected directly to a MyRef dual mono or a Pass BA-3 the hum appears. The V3 is on a wooden base for now but several attempts to jumper grounds at various places had little or no effect. The DAC DC readings are L = 1.1mV / R = 2.1mV. Idle AC reads 0.002V both channels.
 
The DAC is hum free when grounding is done right. Input SPDIF connectors GND should not be connected to the metal case. All standard rules for grounding an audio device also count for this device. When left "floating" in a metal case it does not even hum. DC offset voltages have little or no effect at all on humming.

Since I know our design and the fact that it is silent on your Mackie pre and a pair of BrianGT LM3886 monoblock power amps I would not be sure that both MyRef dual mono and the Pass BA-3 are wired correctly.

However the DAC has no input galvanic isolation either by means of an input transformer or a Toslink optical connection. It could be that you have a combination of factors. The DAC couples GND from the source directly to the amps which could pose a ground loop in rare cases. I think you have devices that use PE/Safety Ground ? Please check all devices and their mains connection....

Just to punch back a little - probably 90% of all modern quality music is mastered on Protools - that's just a big fancy PC with gizmos and plugins. Why not just eliminate all that silly disk and platter spinning and pipe directly into the master??? 😉😀😉

There are many more devices that play music either from solid state or a harddisk but that don't look, smell or feel like a pc. Internal they often are embedded computers of course. It is a personal choice but in my case a pc/Mac is not used for playing music. I don't relax when I hear fans or need an LCD monitor (or even worse a television) to check the music tracks I want to play. For me audio nirvana is a stand alone device that may be connected to a network for filling the disk but that operates fully stand alone without annoying fans and that has a nice color screen for choosing albums...

There are many media players around but few are made for audio only. The ones that are audio only are mostly out of reach as they are quite expensive. The days of optical devices are counted IMO. The quest is for audio only media players that play lossless, can have an internal SATA harddisk mounted in rubber, have gigabit LAN and 300N wireless and an OLED screen. Did I mention it needs to be affordable ?

This one has some nice features (and some less nice features like resampling ) but mine never worked right and warranty is questionable to say the least. After 1 year of emailing I think it will be a door stop.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hifi360-HF-PLA-High-Quality-Desktop-Music-Player-/261132669992
 
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...Input SPDIF connectors GND should not be connected to the metal case. All standard rules for grounding an audio device also count for this device. When left "floating" in a metal case it does not even hum........

.... I would not be sure that both MyRef dual mono and the Pass BA-3 are wired correctly....

..... It could be that you have a combination of factors. The DAC couples GND from the source directly to the amps which could pose a ground loop in rare cases. I think you have devices that use PE/Safety Ground ? Please check all devices and their mains connection....

I added a home-brew tab to the input but it doesn't connect to anything other than the DAC - and that's what surprised me when I heard the hum.

There is indeed a little controversy on the use of PE/Safety Ground with the latest MyRef versions. Different builds/configuration produce varying results. I started tinkering with that last night but thought I'd post the question before I went in deeper. I suspect an inline 1:1 transformer may be a solution as both the BA-3 and MR-FE are hum free with battery powered and optical sources. I'd hoped to avoid the transformer but it may be necessary till I get a better understanding of the conflicts in my particular set-up.

I share your desire for a simpler digital feed/storage/selection method. I'm patiently waiting for the prices of solid state hard drives to start dropping but they are being super stubborn. Remote data storage (in the attic maybe 🙄) is a solution, but that's a project beyond the scope of this thread.

BTW - eBay has started blocking most third party links to the listings. I actually called several weeks ago and they said it was a liability issue they could not avoid. Makes sense from their position but it surely complicates passing along info for DIYers.
 

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