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Walkalone

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AndrewT said:
Do you know which parameter/s make these good for each duty?
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What's your means?

Epcos B41505 show lowest ESR and high rip current more than any snap-in caps.
This is good choice for power supply, make power supply more perfectly.
And long life.

Low ESR/high rip current caps and ultrafast diodes for power supply. I think they're good. The cost is not to high, like high capacity caps and general diodes.
 
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Karl vd Berg

Karl vd Berg

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Walkalone said:
AndrewT said:
Do you know which parameter/s make these good for each duty?
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What's your means?

Epcos B41505 show lowest ESR and high rip current more than any snap-in caps.
This is good choice for power supply, make power supply more perfectly.
And long life.

Low ESR/high rip current caps and ultrafast diodes for power supply. I think they're good. The cost is not to high, like high capacity caps and general diodes.
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The Epcos are excellent, but you won't find them 10,000 or 12,000uF / 63V rated (and higher) for Power Supplies...

For this purpose probably this Vishay BC would do the job better than many others, including NichikonKZ/KG. Yes, they are "screw terminal" and they have that pretty ugly blue dressing, but who cares? :)

Another choice (snap in) for the Sikorels would be the Vishay BC 059 PLL-SI ...
 
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tinitus

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linuxguru said:
It doesn't help that they also stopped manufacturing their niche high-value lines like Black Gates.
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not sure they ever existed ... i think of them as proto adventure that went wrong, and thus had to be stopped

maybe that was a costly affair

were they not a forerunner of the new polymer technology
and never intended to be 'audiophile'
it just happened 'backwards'

looks more to me like the 'audiophile production' was a following desperate effort to cover the losses
 
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Karl vd Berg said:
"Epcos B41505 show lowest ESR and high rip current more than any snap-in caps."
The Epcos are excellent, but you won't find them 10,000 or 12,000uF / 63V rated (and higher) for Power Supplies...
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Karl, that's why they do the B41554 SIKOREL series (125°C):

10.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
15.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
22.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
33.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
47.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - ----

125° C seems perfect for class A. ;)

and the B41550 / B41570 SIKOREL series (105 °C LL):

10.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
15.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
22.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
33.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
47.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - ----


You just have to accept screw terminals which is anyway superior.

Of course there's much more. You asked for 10/12 mF / 63V and higher.

I have to admit for sentimental reasons I'd prefer a "Siemens" badge on
them and "Philips" on BC. Sadly that's history. However, I have some
older Siemens Sikorels that still measure fine, better than newer Mundorf
HC lytics.

If you can afford them - get Sikorels !! :smash:
 
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Erlend Sæterdal

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linuxguru said:
Rubycon got into trouble because they were late in switching from Aluminium to Solid Polymer Electrolytics, which are now the mainstay of the commodity PC and digital equipment business. That business is now dominated by Sanyo, Nippon-Chemicon, Nichicon, and some Chinese and Taiwanese rivals. They also got killed in generic electrolytics by Panasonic, Elna, Nippon-Chemicon, Samxon, Samwha and others. Rubycon now has some polymer lines - but probably too little, too late.

It doesn't help that they also stopped manufacturing their niche high-value lines like Black Gates.
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Will not miss them except their High Q NX Black Gates.
 
Karl vd Berg

Karl vd Berg

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ticktock said:
Karl, that's why they do the B41554 SIKOREL series (125°C):

10.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
15.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
22.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
33.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
47.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - ----

125° C seems perfect for class A. ;)

and the B41550 / B41570 SIKOREL series (105 °C LL):

10.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
15.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
22.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
33.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - 100V
47.000 µF : 16V - 25V - 40V - 63V - ----


You just have to accept screw terminals which is anyway superior.

Of course there's much more. You asked for 10/12 mF / 63V and higher.

I have to admit for sentimental reasons I'd prefer a "Siemens" badge on
them and "Philips" on BC. Sadly that's history. However, I have some
older Siemens Sikorels that still measure fine, better than newer Mundorf
HC lytics.

If you can afford them - get Sikorels !! :smash:
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Nice! These B41554 goes indeed good with class A or Mosfet driven circuits.

And I've heard that F&T actually makes many of Mundorf electrolytics.

Thanks!
 
Karl vd Berg

Karl vd Berg

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Karl vd Berg

Karl vd Berg

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Don't know if BC (formerly Philips) went to far east. Or did already most of
them go to China?

:confused:
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Vishay headquarters are in the US. They have plants almost everywhere in the World.

They made vast companies acquisition and therefore extra expertise from those engineers and stil are expanding a strong further acquisition policy.

Vishay - Company Info - About Vishay
 
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ticktock

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Thank you both, Erlend and Karl.

Vishay has manufacturing plants in the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Israel, as well as sales offices worldwide.
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Sadly no word what they make in Europe and in which country.


Erlend Sæterdal said:
Startseite - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group
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Sonderanfertigungen - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group

Herstellung ausschließlich in Deutschland und in der Schweiz
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I don't know if they mean "lytics in Germany" and "foil caps in Switzerland" or whatever.

BTW, "Audio-capacitors":

Audio-Kondensatoren - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group

Guess, it's no that they look the same as Mundorf HC:

Serie GW -40°C ... +105°C (5000 h) - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group
 
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tinitus

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maybe not 2 years ago, but I think all are fabricated is in India now

or at least the ones sold are, because they are cheaper

you may even be able to find the exact same cap at 2 different prices
the 'costly' one is 'old stock'
and new stock is the cheaper one
but basicly they may be the exact same cap
 
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Erlend Sæterdal

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ticktock said:
Thank you both, Erlend and Karl.



Sadly no word what they make in Europe and in which country.




Sonderanfertigungen - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group



I don't know if they mean "lytics in Germany" and "foil caps in Switzerland" or whatever.

BTW, "Audio-capacitors":

Audio-Kondensatoren - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group

Guess, it's no that they look the same as Mundorf HC:

Serie GW -40°C ... +105°C (5000 h) - FTCap Fischer & Tausche Capacitors Group
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Sorry I do not know what caps they make in Germany.
 
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