Babelfish M25, SissySIT - general building tips and tricks

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I put together a little checklist so it's not really a BOM but better than nothing right? I only did this for SissySIT #2 so builder beware, be sure to double check.

@Dennis this might be handy for you as now you have a good reason to build your SissySIT

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I replaced the Mosfet on the drifting channel. @170mA the mosfet tested Vgs of 4.1V. The ones in my 2nd kit also measure 4.1. I cut the pins removing it from the PCB, so I have some more Mosfets on order from Digikey. Hope I can get 4V+ Vgs in the batch I ordered. I should learn to have more patience in solder removal, because this time it is costing time and money.



When I went through the drifting channel checking for any other things, it turns out the screw on the SIT with the wire and eye connection was not very tight. I suspect that poor connection may have been problematic. I tightened it up.



The channel was better to bias after these updates. Still a little drift/float, but I decided to call it "good enough" and go into field testing. I lent it to a friend for a few weeks while I finish his 2nd F5 Turbo V3. When that's done I'll build SissySIT #2 for me, I need 4 channels to run in my active horn system.



I listened about an hour at my friend's house yesterday. He's running Alon LotusSE speakers. The sounds was really nice in his setup: beautiful detail, instrument air/separation, great in bass, mids, and highs. He left the amp on all night and reported it is "blissfully sweet" on some classical this morning, and he will be listening all day while he works. He has big bryston monoblocks, F5, and Aleph J monoblocs. And soon to have F5 Turbo V3 monoblocks. It's always interesting to hear his listening notes.
 
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ZM - my Mosfets arrived. I did a quick measurement. 11 of 12 measure Vgs 3.6V - 3.65V at 170mA. One was 3.72V. I tested the high one at 470mA and got Vgs of 3.92V.


I also have a batch of 9240's with Vgs in range of 3.85 @170mA


These 9240's were all tested for matching for F5 Turbo V3 project.



SITs from Pras are 3.4V at 1.8 or 2A.


How big or small is window for Mosfets? Thoughts on using the 9140's or 9240's I have? Is the window OK? Or should I order more to try for different Vgs value?
 
If you look at the schematic, P1 is located between Pin 1 of OK2 and R15/VR1. Put the ohmmeter probes at those two locations and measure. Adjust P1 back and forth to confirm that you are changing the resistance, and adjust P1 until you have zero resistance.

This is very important and explains where the setting should be. after looking at schematic the position and 2k marking by the trim pot had me :scratch::scratch:
I was popping fuses like candy on Halloween.


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So after setting p1 to 0r I am still having high draw to the point of melting fuses.
I have the Vfet and mosfet isolated, where’s the short?
Or is my R47 to small and wanting to become a light bulb?
 

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I have R1 resistors now.
But from what I’ve seen so far it looks like it’s pulling over 10A per channel. :(
The power supply is making 24V +/- and working great.

What could pull this much amperage?
Vfet drain to ground measures 100R on left and 1K on right.
Could Vfet bias be starved with R47 and causing runaway?

I can tear it down and build M25...... but first I need advice on testing Fet’s.
 

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describe your PSU , +/-14Vdc doesn't make sense , except in case of juicing same 10A on both rails

drain to gnd is not telling me anything - too much things connected , so really not relevant info

buzzer/diode test poor mosfet between all pins ; it's highly possible that you killed poor bugger in first moment