On the B-17 ball turret : That is the last place I would want to be on that plane. On the B-24 the ball turret was retractable so you wouldn't have to be in it while landing but on the 17 you were in it from before take-off until after landing if any part of the turret control system was damaged. A lot of guys got stuck ion them. Just imagine if the landing gear did not come down.
More tail gunners were killed than any other position on the B-17s and B-24s though. It is a matter of closing speed. When attacked from the front the two planes pass each other really fast but when the attacker is coming up from behind you are in their gunsights for a lot longer time. Attacking a bomber from behind is the same deal for the attacker too. Much more dangerous then attacking from the front or side unless the tail gunner has already been killed.
And some people forget that our bombers had .50 cal machine guns (12.7mm for you Canadians) and the German fighters had cannons that were more powerful and could shoot much farther. Why our bombers didn't have cannons I do not know. Maybe it was a matter of producing huge numbers in a short period of time.
More tail gunners were killed than any other position on the B-17s and B-24s though. It is a matter of closing speed. When attacked from the front the two planes pass each other really fast but when the attacker is coming up from behind you are in their gunsights for a lot longer time. Attacking a bomber from behind is the same deal for the attacker too. Much more dangerous then attacking from the front or side unless the tail gunner has already been killed.
And some people forget that our bombers had .50 cal machine guns (12.7mm for you Canadians) and the German fighters had cannons that were more powerful and could shoot much farther. Why our bombers didn't have cannons I do not know. Maybe it was a matter of producing huge numbers in a short period of time.
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Hieronymus Bosch's macabre sense of humor comes to mind.
It's true whether you believe it or not. Actually, some people die almost instantly. Dying isn't too much of a problem. Being sick and depressed before dying is what scares me.
The germans eventually used 30mm cannons which were very effective (4 hits on average to down a B17 or B24, a single hit for a fighter. The previous 20mm required an average of 25 hits to down a bomber.) plus easy and cheap to produce as 80% of it was stamped steel.
The drawback was low ballistic properties so the german fighters had to close in very tightly before firing.
ME262 pilots did run a very real risk of colliding with the target due to the speed differential and the need to get very close.
We don't have 1100 pounders , but the smoky mountain park is FILLED with wild russian boars. The friendly bears are NOTHING , the boars have a nasty attitude. You just look for sign (holes everywhere) and stay away. They are TOUGH , I had to shoot one in the head twice to stop it 😱 , the rangers usually shoot 1-2 in my valley as well every summer to keep the city people safe. One good thing (maybe) is that you can use the boar as you would a "standard" pig (smoked bacon 🙂 ) .
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Too much shooting going on, keep it civil guys! I'm having my breakfast, don't feel like reading about shooting down animals -no matter how wild they might be.
Of course not. That's the point. I'm trying to go veg but I still have a moderate fetish for bacon.
I'll wait to be 50 to try out chubby girls. Hmmm... chubby girls in thongs....you definitively ruined my breakfast. I'm throwing it up.
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I read an interview with Rolling Stone Keith Richards who has had enough overdoses that he should be dead.
He said that there is no light at the end of a tunnel, no floating up to heaven, no choirs, just a' fade to black'.
Eric.
He said that there is no light at the end of a tunnel, no floating up to heaven, no choirs, just a' fade to black'.
Eric.
I suspect Jacco is dating one with generous curves. I wonder if she's the one with the lesbian logo t-shirt. That one gave me a boner. That means I can't visit him -not without getting myself into trouble.
Feminist, not lezzie, ....you macho cochino.
You know, once, i dated a bodybuilding chick, lean with ample tattoos. Only skinny i'd fancy is that blue one from the X-men flics.
You know, once, i dated a bodybuilding chick, lean with ample tattoos. Only skinny i'd fancy is that blue one from the X-men flics.
I'm partial to a wee bit 'o cushion for the push-in. Not Camryn Manheim territory, just a little meat.
Bad experiences with the really slim ones in the past...☠☠☠☠☠
Bad experiences with the really slim ones in the past...☠☠☠☠☠
As far as Hollywood women go, i'd say she's one of the few interesting ladies, sense of humor and smart up top.
Hang on, this is an audio club, bigger fish to fry : www.yachtaudio.com
Hang on, this is an audio club, bigger fish to fry : www.yachtaudio.com
Funny, it gives Ft. Lauderdale time. Mega-yatch sounds expensive (tacky too), I think no fishing today or tomorrow in this club. 
I think he was trying to be helpful by telling you how dangerous wild hogs are and not just talking about shooting animals for the sake of shooting animals. Shooting a wild hog is not shooting an animal for fun it is self defense. I know to somebody who has never seen the way they are it sounds like a bunch of crap but it isn't. I thought it was a bunch of crap at one time. They are way dangerous. Any other animal might not attack you if they see you. It is actually rare for them to attack. But if a wild hog sees you as far as every case I know of, they always attack. When I am in the woods that is my number one concern above rattlesnakes, water moccasins, mountain lions, bobcats or anything else. The danger from them is how little warning you get too. You have to be very observant to figure out they are there before they charge you. I have never heard of them coming into the city. Probably because they are too smart. But if they ever do it could be really bad. Stalker you live in Texas right? Do you think many counties would put a bounty on them if they were not way dangerous? It is illegal to shoot a lot of dangerous animals in Texas but they encourage and some counties even pay you to shoot wild hogs.
Hey Ostripper, you might have 1100 pound hogs. Alabama didn't have them until that kid killed one and Georgia didn't have them until they killed Hogzilla but I am sure they both had them a long time before that. I am sure many other states have them too. It was just nobody saw them or if they did nobody believed them. If there is one 1100 pound hog in Alabama there has to be more it seems to me. I can't imagine an 1100 pound hog not reproducing. I would think he could have any or every female hog he wanted to.
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