For me the NDE (or perhaps DE) will wait until the real thing happens upon me...had enough fun with induced altered states in my youth. My expectation is for some potential entertainment during the brief transition followed by a long stint of worm feeding. 
When I was younger and I had tried every possible entertainment I used to think like that: next big thing is death. But now I know better. There's no potential entertainment when your body is so out of shape that is about to die, your mind is not in a much better condition. Of course you could die during an orgasm but I suspect a heart attack isn't fun either. I really would like to die in a happy mood but I see little chances.
Since death is essential as a tool to avoid overcrowding & resource competition by those not relevant to reproduction (the only goal of DNA) I assume the software has a subroutine that renders death tolerable and perhaps even enjoyable as an experience...we'll see!!
There's no evolutionary advantage to that (dying organisms aren't going to reproduce), so it's unfortunately unlikely.
Sorry. that I'm off topic again, but a joke now the sharks in relation to fit:🙂
Two sharks complain to each other:
- Yesterday I ate a fat woman on the beach, but she was so greasy that I screwed up my stomach.
- I gobbled up a blonde bomber chick, but she was so empty-headed, it's been a week I can not dive.
Anyway I hope you manage to understand it.
Near death experience for me anyway, if I already feel like there is no joke.😡
Two sharks complain to each other:
- Yesterday I ate a fat woman on the beach, but she was so greasy that I screwed up my stomach.
- I gobbled up a blonde bomber chick, but she was so empty-headed, it's been a week I can not dive.
Anyway I hope you manage to understand it.
Near death experience for me anyway, if I already feel like there is no joke.😡
I have tried both the lysergic acid diethylamide and NDE approach and I can tell you that they are substantially different and not even remotely similar.
She couldn't have been greasier than a whale, could she? 😀
Right. It keeps up alive too. Being immortal must be such a bore.
Bodily death is absolutely essential. The body is a carrier for the 'individual conscious energy' that is really each individual self , and is used to get that ES ( Energy Source) to experience ' physical life' for reasons that we know as Karma ( in the East ) or as yet something we don't know about. It is only of use for a certain period of time. That period varies from person to person.
So when the 'planned experience is over' the body dies. Should you worry about loosing the physical body? I don't think so. There is far more to 'LIFE' than the bodily presence ( existence) on Mother Earth.
My favourite line is/always was , EVERYTHING in life functions in a way that appears to be VERY well planned. Plants, animals etc. Strangest looking animals have functions that look incredible but there for a very good reason. So ......Mankind is the MOST complex creature we know of and after a whole life time of experiences it couldn't possibly ' DIE' and be lost to eternity ! So there must be a very good purpose and the conscious self should live on. Modern scientific experiments support this view. Jung and many other famous people said that Life certainly does not die...at least the conscious part of oneself.
Most people doing experiments on this topic conclude that an open mind and knowledge of such matters HELPS a person when he/she dies. Note that they do not say 'belief is necessary ' ! All that sorts itself out when the time comes. However one must try to keep and open mind AND at least listen to what we know about such matters. One doesn't need to become a 'believer' !
Isn't that nice ? 😉
So when the 'planned experience is over' the body dies. Should you worry about loosing the physical body? I don't think so. There is far more to 'LIFE' than the bodily presence ( existence) on Mother Earth.
My favourite line is/always was , EVERYTHING in life functions in a way that appears to be VERY well planned. Plants, animals etc. Strangest looking animals have functions that look incredible but there for a very good reason. So ......Mankind is the MOST complex creature we know of and after a whole life time of experiences it couldn't possibly ' DIE' and be lost to eternity ! So there must be a very good purpose and the conscious self should live on. Modern scientific experiments support this view. Jung and many other famous people said that Life certainly does not die...at least the conscious part of oneself.
Most people doing experiments on this topic conclude that an open mind and knowledge of such matters HELPS a person when he/she dies. Note that they do not say 'belief is necessary ' ! All that sorts itself out when the time comes. However one must try to keep and open mind AND at least listen to what we know about such matters. One doesn't need to become a 'believer' !
Isn't that nice ? 😉
Apologies to the Sharks, Piranhas and Man made distruction machines.😀
Edit : I'm really alive and kicking !😀
I'm on my third drink right now !
reward for completing a whole lot of work today !
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Sorry for my idiotic comment ashok, I'm a little stoned (BTW, I'm labeling this new dope as 'speedy with good social qualities').
I understand your line of reasoning. It is, shall we say, very oriental. We'll have to wait to find out in the end who's wrong or right.
I understand your line of reasoning. It is, shall we say, very oriental. We'll have to wait to find out in the end who's wrong or right.
I looked it up and you are right. While I was looking it up I also read a lot of the stuff about the drama surrounding the rounds. I noticed a few doctors who claimed they "exploded inside a person like a thousand razor blades". It seems to be largely believed that they were completely wrong but they were not too far off actually at least with the round I took. It didn't explode into a thousand razor blades but it exploded into a lot of them. The one that hit me was closer to the doctors description than it was to Winchesters. The head surgeon who worked on me was a guy named Gary Richart and he had seen them before but I didn't think at the time to ask him exactly what they did other times he knew about. From what I can tell he did an excellent job. I think all he does is gunshots.
Everything seems intricately well planned to support life in general and us in particular because we are here...an intelligent observer will always conclude his universe was created just for him! If such a good fit did not occur life in general and intelligence in particular would not have developed. So the close match between necessary conditions and life forms is self-fulfilling.
Agreed that DEs cannot confer survival benefit...however, NDEs, by providing reporting to the reproductively active that the "afterlife" exists and is pleasant could provide useful social and psycological reinforcement that produce survival benefits. Besides as we all know...code is FREE!!😉
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