Amp Camp Amp - ACA

So that is all sounding good so far.

Just to confirm so far then.

1/ Supply is correct at 24 volts DC.

2/ The voltage on R1/2/3 and 4 junctions adjusts to 12 volts DC.

Those results show the main DC conditions are correct.

The FET's being hot (which is good) imply that the values of R1/2/3 and 4 are correct.

So checking continuity of input and output wiring is next.

I’ve rewired the outputs and reflowed the input. Still no joy.
 
Hi Alex, did you see my post a while back?

Just a guess here, but I suspect that the big cap (C1) on channel B is not soldered in correctly.
The response you got when you measured between the speaker terminals on channel A is correct, it should increase over a period of time, it is charging the big cap (C1).
If you measure 989 ohms straight away on the B channel, it is likely the cap is not connected, so no output.
85%+ of ACA failures are poor soldering...
Alan

I'm afraid it's time to take the problem board out and inspect your soldering...
 
We'll get there 🙂

With the amp OFF and a speaker connected can you hear any thump or noise from the speaker as you turn the amp on and then off?

Have you done all the continuity tests I detailed? that will test and check for both continuity and also inadvertent shorts.

Amp Camp Amp - ACA

We will indeed 🙂

I should also mention that when I first plugged it in, in stereo, it worked on both channels but then stopped within a few seconds.

I will check for the thump when I get a chance and will go back over and check where I am with your list. Sorry for the slowness, real life is continually getting in the way ��
 
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@tjw59 and @Alan4411 thx for your help. I measured resistance and voltage per the guide. There was a bad solder joint on Q2. Fixed that and retested. All good. I reflowed everything, retested and reset the bias. It sounds great in my small den. Qobuz->Roon->Ropieee->Dac->Amp Camp->elac DBR62.
Thx again!
 
Another unrelated question for you guys. Assuming a nominal 5 ohms for my speakers, to keep the output of the amp to 5 watts (keeping distortion in check), it seems as though I would need to reduce the 2vrms output of the dac down to about 1 volt or -6db. This assumes a 14db gain from the amp. Does that seem right?
 
HearingAids I use a dac with that the spec says the output is 2 volts with no ill effect at all. I also when I first built the amp ran it into a 4 ohm test load with pink noise and the dac running all 2 of its volts for about 3 days. So if the concern is hurting the amp - I wouldn’t worry about it. Find a place where your ears and their associated equipment think it sounds good and listen to the music!
 
Thx. I was trying to keep it under 3% distortion and clipping. I relooked at the imoedance curves for my speakers and would instead call them 6 ohms. With 10db gain, 4 watts ( which should keep me well under 3% distortion) would require 1.5 v in. So a little over -2.25db down on my dac.
 
The gain depends on the value used for R12 (and R11) and so is about 10db if you have a 10k and 39k2 fitted. The load impedance also alters gain slightly on the ACA, lower impedance and lower gain.

You could always try increasing the 39k2 if you need a little bit more gain, nothing bad will happen.
 
Thx. I was trying to keep it under 3% distortion and clipping. I relooked at the imoedance curves for my speakers and would instead call them 6 ohms. With 10db gain, 4 watts ( which should keep me well under 3% distortion) would require 1.5 v in. So a little over -2.25db down on my dac.

It's not so much the rated impedance of your speakers, but more importantly its nature - whether it is mostly resistive or reactive. Single driver speakers or simple 2 ways (preferably with Series XO) will be easier load for an ACA, compared to complex XO 2 -3 way ones.

The other important bit is how sensitive are your speakers - 86 dB, 90 db, or the best case 93 db and above. If you want low distortion you need speakers that can produce at least 93 db @ 1W. Then you'll be fine.
 
What rate of change from 39k would yield what rate of change in gain?
What are reasonable limits?

The voltage gain G is approximately given by R12/R11 so we have 39.2/10 which is 3.9.

In other words 1 volt in gives 3.9 volts out or 11.8db.

In practice it is a bit lower because of the low loop gain of the ACA and the addition of a load. It is about 10db for an 8 ohm load.

A 56k would give about 13db gain.

Going to 82k would double the voltage gain and the distortion is little changed really.

Try it 🙂

This shows 2v input with 39k2 and 1v input with 82k.
 

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