JBL obviously decided to gloss over specific details for the final specsheet in order to make the product 'look' better, more believable or: less stupid.
100dB sensitivity and (-10dB) 35Hz-18kHz 4pi, max. continuous SPL: 124dB...
100dB sensitivity and (-10dB) 35Hz-18kHz 4pi, max. continuous SPL: 124dB...
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Marcel, do you have an idea about exchngable throat? Different throat size leads to different length where contours are tangent.
Does anybody have experience with B&C DE360 or DE111 and XO @ 1200-1500Hz?
The response of the DE360 looks exceptionally clean.
The response of the DE360 looks exceptionally clean.
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My friend bought DE360 and I printed STH 12", he also bought Dayton waveguide. He preferred Dayton for timbre and STH for imaging. He didn't like HF - lack of power on maraca instruments so gave me DE360 that collects dust and bought Daytons.
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It could be informative to see the polars. I think it would show that this is not a particularly good way how to do it - the termination seems too abrupt. Maybe (just my conjecture) for bigger horns there is a less detrimental effect but in this case it wouldn't surprise me if the result was not very good. A smaller waveguide in a rounded baffle could do a better service.
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So far I haven't figured out how to do it. The whole profile is very different for a different throat.Marcel, do you have an idea about exchngable throat? Different throat size leads to different length where contours are tangent.
It could be informative to see the polars. I think it would show that this is not a particularly good way how to do it - the termination seems too abrupt. Maybe (just my conjecture) for bigger horns there is a less detrimental effect but in this case it wouldn't surprise me if the result was not very good. A smaller waveguide in a rounded baffle could do a better service.
Dear Marcel I can print new one if you send me file. That waveguide was early STH. Project enclosed.
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My friend bought DE360 and I printed STH 12", he also bought Dayton waveguide. He preferred Dayton for timbre and STH for imaging. He didn't like HF - lack of power on maraca instruments so gave me DE360 that collects dust and bought Daytons.
Ah Yes, I forgot about those 😉
Which crossover was used between the DE360 and the (I suppose) 6 or 8" woofer?
The 3-way with ring- and mid-dome is another project?
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Attractive price. This Dayton or Aurum Cantus 250. Or something opposite - Eminence LEGEND BP122.
The DSA315 is virtually resonance-free up to nearly 4 kHz, which is not bad for a 12" woofer. Then is starts to ring (an aluminum cone) but that should be high enough to be filtered out sufficiently - I hope.
- This is one of the many woofers I have lying around here. It may still end up in some direct radiating three-way.
- This is one of the many woofers I have lying around here. It may still end up in some direct radiating three-way.
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Some of those bass guitar woofers are usuable, especially if these are designed to reproduce a clean tone (without breakup overtones/coloration).
This is one of my favorites. It's basically a slightly modified Sica 10 2.5 PL.
This is one of my favorites. It's basically a slightly modified Sica 10 2.5 PL.

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Oh, I'm already cured from that ... 🙂I'm interested in short tappered TL for such drivers - like Sanders and Jazzman use.
The DSA315 is virtually resonance-free up to nearly 4 kHz, which is not bad for a 12" woofer. Then is starts to ring (an aluminum cone) but that should be high enough to be filtered out sufficiently - I hope.
- This is one of the many woofers I have lying around here. It may still end up in some direct radiating three-way.
Did you mount it in a cab/baffle to get an impression of the sound signature?
Thick rubber rol surround + metal cone may lack midrange snappiness and 'paper' warmth.
I have to admit, the plots look promising and the motor structure appears to be properly engineered.
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A midrange snappiness and 'paper' warmth? Now you've lost me. Do you mean it will sound more neutral? I don't know but I'd rather not discuss a sound of different cone materials here. I don't have much to add anyway.
😉 This surely isn't the place to discuss these aspects.
Let me finish by stating I'd rather not use rubber roll surrounds, especially in the midrange.
Let me finish by stating I'd rather not use rubber roll surrounds, especially in the midrange.
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Ah Yes, I forgot about those 😉
Which crossover was used between the DE360 and the (I suppose) 6 or 8" woofer? The 3-way with ring- and mid-dome is another project?
1,2kHz (Behringer). Same project that replaced STH waveguide with DE360.
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