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CFT.
Are you building the pre with caps or trafo in output ?
Not yet planned ...like to hear your experience and suggestion on this 😀
Well.i can not say what is best,,i use Lundahl 2745 -40ma trafo
Michael use Caps-- Very god caps
both gives super sound
Michael use Caps-- Very god caps
both gives super sound
Not yet planned ...like to hear your experience and suggestion on this 😀
Hi.
A Bjarne (Beardman) allready had mention both (Caps or Transformer) sound
very very good.
If you decide for make a ver 1 or 2, with Caps, You need to spend some serious
money on the Caps. If not It would be very inferior to the ones with transformer coupling.
I have tried Clarity MR, Russian PIO, V-Cap Tin Foil with just wasn't good enough.
Ended up using a combination of Rike S-caps (0.33) + V-Cap cuFT(0.1).
If you are on a limited budget , Just try the Rike S-cap(0.33) not that expensive and It sound really good.
Which Power Amp are you using ???
/Michael
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I am new to this Rike S-cap, thanks for the introduction Michael. Yeah together with the bypass v cap then its not inexpensive....
I see why you asked on the power amp..with RC coupled out its better to have a high input impedance one like a tube amp. I have some SET amps to mate that with. 🙂
Will consider the tranny out version as I need long interconnect cables etc 😀
I see why you asked on the power amp..with RC coupled out its better to have a high input impedance one like a tube amp. I have some SET amps to mate that with. 🙂
Will consider the tranny out version as I need long interconnect cables etc 😀
Hi Beardman, you asked earlier where i was from in Denmark. I am from Herning area. Infact i am not planing to build this preamp, but another poweramp design using this tube. infact I hope it has gain enough to be used as integrated amp, but a doubt it. It will use 6SN7 as the pre-tube before the output stage.
(by the way I have seen you tread on Hifi4all, but i am not registreded to use hifi4all forum rigtht now, it is so long time ago i have posted, I guess they have shut down my account)
It is good to see others are re-discovering the no feedback tube designs.
(by the way I have seen you tread on Hifi4all, but i am not registreded to use hifi4all forum rigtht now, it is so long time ago i have posted, I guess they have shut down my account)
It is good to see others are re-discovering the no feedback tube designs.
Hi Hylle
I am from Ølgod--not so far away
Interesting use of the 4p1l,,in a power amp..
best Bjarne
I am from Ølgod--not so far away
Interesting use of the 4p1l,,in a power amp..
best Bjarne
I have tried a pair Svetlana 1963 (more microphonic , very warm) , Svetlana 1965 (great tube as beardman mention) , but now just playing on the standard 1986 4P1L.
The last one has the lowest microphonic level of them all (4 different set tested).
It's absolutely not night and day, on ver 1 "little siberian" I can easily adjust
how much warm I prefer, by adjusting the grid leak resistor (47K to 100K).
Again can't tell what the difference is on ver 3 with transformer coupling.
/Michael
Much warm near 47K or near 100K?
Much warm near 47K or near 100K?
Hi..
With Caps ver 1 the I have found the following.
47K (more warm , less open).
100K (less warm , more open).
Try to adjust for own your prefered taste.
68K is a good starting point.
/Michael.
Yes , I'm using 100K blue Alps, quite okay for the low price ca 13-14 euro.
Are you considering to build a 4P1L, or have you allready made one ???
/Michael
Are you considering to build a 4P1L, or have you allready made one ???
/Michael
I have the tubes & sockets to make the 4P1L, I make the #26 so the question is related to try in the same place for #26, I use a ladder resistor switch 100K so following your advice for 4P1L I'm in the open zone because actually I use 100K grind leak resistor in my #26?
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Hi Merlin...
What I can really recommend, you should absolutely try.
Buy these resistor for your grid stopper...
Takman REX (Carbon).
Takman REY (Metal).
Shinkoh (Tantalum).
The difference is huge in my 4P1L. I really like them all. Right now I'm trying the
ShinKoh, witch besides quite expensive, just amazing.
They are warmer and very open, and I have only listening for 1 hour...
Will do an update, when I have 100 hours on them.
PS! When I rob a bank, I'll try these Vishay from mouser , 71-Z201T1K0000TB.
/Michael
What I can really recommend, you should absolutely try.
Buy these resistor for your grid stopper...
Takman REX (Carbon).
Takman REY (Metal).
Shinkoh (Tantalum).
The difference is huge in my 4P1L. I really like them all. Right now I'm trying the
ShinKoh, witch besides quite expensive, just amazing.
They are warmer and very open, and I have only listening for 1 hour...
Will do an update, when I have 100 hours on them.
PS! When I rob a bank, I'll try these Vishay from mouser , 71-Z201T1K0000TB.
/Michael
As grid leak resistor I used 100K Mills 12W when used the AVC at the output, now I'm using switch ladder resistor 100K so I don't use grid leak resistor, I only have Amstrans 47K 3/4W so I wil try.
Felipe
Felipe
Hi Felipe...
A question for you.
When you are using your "switch ladder resistor 100K" don't you have some "daps" when you're changing the volume ??.
Which one "switch ladder resistor 100K" are you using ??
/Best Michael
A question for you.
When you are using your "switch ladder resistor 100K" don't you have some "daps" when you're changing the volume ??.
Which one "switch ladder resistor 100K" are you using ??
/Best Michael
I use make before break.
Cheers
Felipe
Which one "switch ladder resistor 100K" are you using ??
/Michael
I used Shallco, Elma & Chinese.
If you have pops surely you have DC, try input cap before the switch.
Felipe
If you have pops surely you have DC, try input cap before the switch.
Felipe
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Your source have output caps?
Yes, so there should be no problem...
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