Fully balanced MC phono preamplifier thoughts

Are you also using balanced I/O cabling?

Yes, I'm using balanced cabling, although terminated with RCA plugs and with the screen terminated with separate wires, connecting the TT's chassis to the Head Amp's chassis.
in the attachment the two versions I can switch between, Voltage and Current mode.
Both can be driven Diff In/Diff Out or Diff In/ SE Out by flipping a switch to change the signals to the output.
Power comes from a single 5V 10Watt USB Power Pack that last for many days plying LP's.
Since the Cart's inductance is only in the low uH region, I don't think the cable capacitance can be the cause.
There comes a point in audio where logic explanations don't suffice anymore and you just have to use your ears.

Hans
 

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I'm surprised you haven't gone on to use XLR's Hans. It looks like you are using heat shrinking around the differential transistor pairs? Makes sense. I also see lots of capacitors. Are there DC blocking coupling capacitors? By the way, I will be providing SE on the outputs as well.

It is interesting that countless electronic networks can be designed and constructed, yet the sonic outcome can never be necessarily trusted as predictable.
 
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Thanks for all contribution!
The square wave on the LP is also very strange. It is recorded with Riaa correction and for some reason it has an uncommon duty cycle.
You should play the square wave with Riaa correction.
You are right, I repeated square , this time after my complete preamp and it looks more squerish, nevertheless strange cycle as yours:
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1) The SPL plot only starts to be valid as from 2Khz.
From there it goes down with 10dB/decade up to 40Khz and not the 50Khz they mention.
So to get a better view on your Cart’s FR, draw a line with a 10dB/dec through the plot starting at 2Khz.
Later today I’ll send you some samples.
However, the one thing I don’t get is why your A/D converter makes this strange jump above 20Khz. Have you any idea why ?
My ADC jump around 22kHz was not perfect calibration file I made some time ago. So far did not bother as it is out of range of interest, but now I made good one. This is sweep now, with corrected cal file and after full preamp, including RIAA this time.
Only god knows why Ortofon did it like this, and did not say a word about it in instructions...
PS, LP that I have is 33 1/3 on both sides, no 45 rpm...?.?
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Anyway, now when you explained this 10db/decade fall, it makes sense...
 
And the 1kHz THD +N test, now with my preamp including RIAA, still horrible and worst than that.. Actually figures are relative as they dance so much that it is question when I press save button what will come out (note no more peak after 22kHz):
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My ADC jump around 22kHz was not perfect calibration file I made some time ago. So far did not bother as it is out of range of interest, but now I made good one. This is sweep now, with corrected cal file and after full preamp, including RIAA this time.
Only god knows why Ortofon did it like this, and did not say a word about it in instructions...
PS, LP that I have is 33 1/3 on both sides, no 45 rpm...?.?
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Anyway, now when you explained this 10db/decade fall, it makes sense...
Good to see that your ADC is now callibrated correctly.
The sweep was recorded in constant velocity, so don’t apply Riaa.
So please show it again how it looks now.

The LP is intented for 33 1/3, but there is no reason why you couldn’t play it at 45rpm.
All frequencies will shift op by a factor 45/(33 1/3) = 1.35

Hans
 
Hi, off subject. I tough that power pack uses single 3.7V LiIon battery cell and than switch mode DC-DC converter to make constant 5V out of it, so even it runs from battery it is SMPS, did you check yours?
No I did not check this, but as you can see in the ultra low noise spectrum, there are no signs of the usual SMPS anomalies, but you may be right.
However, the 5V does not feed the head amps directly, but after first filtering a 1.9nV-rtHz regulator on the lower board further flattens the supply voltage individually for the left and the right channel, that´s where you see all the red lytics.
The big advantage of using a power pack however is that there is no intrusion of mains frequency in the supply as shown in the noise spectrum.

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I'm surprised you haven't gone on to use XLR's Hans. It looks like you are using heat shrinking around the differential transistor pairs? Makes sense. I also see lots of capacitors. Are there DC blocking coupling capacitors? By the way, I will be providing SE on the outputs as well.

It is interesting that countless electronic networks can be designed and constructed, yet the sonic outcome can never be necessarily trusted as predictable.
Several reasons, XLR's take more space and even more important, RCA socket's can also receive SE signals from TT's with a fixed cable.
What I use is in the attachment.

The Blue caps are in the supply of the individual amps, but everything is DC coupled and servo's keep the inputs within 1mV.

And
 

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